Isiah Thomas disputes Michael Jordan's GOAT status, says LeBron and Kevin would've dominated on 80s

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Just shows IT will just say anything to fit him.

come next time when it's time to talk about the Detroit Piston titles he's going to exaggerate about how good the competition they played.
He pretty much saying if the rules today were in the 80’s he would have won more. So even then he shytting on his era
 

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Thing is...
...when people talk GOAT...they are talking about a lot of other intangibles too.

It reminds me of hip hop...
...Whenever someone says Pac is the GOAT, someone will chime in w/ "he doesnt have multis like so and so"...
...but Pac is GOAT for reasons past just how he rapped.

its the same with Jordan...
...Jordan is GOAT because of the whole package.

The fukery he brought...mindset...killer instinct, etc...
 

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Just shows IT will just say anything to fit him.

come next time when it's time to talk about the Detroit Piston titles he's going to exaggerate about how good the competition they played.
nikka Isiah beat MJ, Magic, Bird and Kareem :what:

What other superstar can say that?
 

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Durant would be ok. Lebron would be ok, but the game being more physical back then would have taken Lebron out of his game. Every time he goes to the hole he's getting beat up. And considering Lebron whines to the refs about the most basic things, the 80's physical nature would have taken him out his game mentally.


that works both ways.

if lebron played in the '80s, he wouldnt have come up in the AAU culture. he also wouldnt have grew up with half the stars in the league. his approach wouldve been different.

hes also not soft like people make him out to be. most of that is microscope embellishing.
 
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that works both ways.

if lebron played in the '80s, he wouldnt have come up in the AAU culture. he also wouldnt have grew up with half the stars in the league. his approach wouldve been different.

hes also not soft like people make him out to be. most of that is microscope embellishing.

Man Bron would toss all those 2 and 3’s around like rag dolls. Imagine a nikka the size of Karl Malone running point.
 

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Being from Detroit, I can certainly acknowledge that Zeke is a huge Jordan hater; that doesn't make his point false.

I hate the myth that hand checking has become. Sure it has an effect, but I think people forget how big and strong (pause) LeBron is. No wing player back then was fast AND strong enough to push LeBron around so of course he'd dominate in the 80s. LeBron would dominate the 80s and of course Jordan would still be a dominant player in today's game.

The big thing for Jordan imo is his sheer competitiveness. Jordan would still likely arguably be the GOAT, but I think the parity of the current league and increase in overall talent would likely make him less successful. Individually he'd still be a DOMINANT force, but the game doesn't quite cater to individual dominance the same way it did then. Jordan was ahead of his time athletically, and also was in a perfect situation to beat his competition. If Jordan came in the league 5 years earlier I doubt he'd have the same championship success, though his individual talent and production would still put him firmly in the GOAT talks.
 

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Andrew Wiggins, Zion Williamson, Hamidou Diallo, Zach LaVine, Jaylen Brown all approximate or surpass him in these measurements off top...

It feels like every team has a guy with 40 inches of bounce that can run.

Zeke’s point is also not that there’s 10 guys exactly built like MJ but there’s some amazing 10-11 guys with eye popping athleticism or unique athleticism.

Giannis and KD these two guys don’t have the highest vertical leap but they have fluidity and explosiveness at 7-feet that is rare and it’s game breaking. It was nothing like that in the 80’s.

it’s sad that you had explain this to supposedly normal functioning grown men
 

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Now nikkas in here saying MJ didn’t beat anybody in their primes


this is the part where you shouldve been naming the great teams that the bulls beat.

but you cant.


Man Bron would toss all those 2 and 3’s around like rag dolls. Imagine a nikka the size of Karl Malone running point.


yea. THIS.

and the whole idea of lebron being soft, is overblown simply because the microscope is on him.

if he was so sweet, then how come nobody ran up on him yet
 

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Time for people to get angry and throw hissyfits
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Andrew Wiggins, Zion Williamson, Hamidou Diallo, Zach LaVine, Jaylen Brown all approximate or surpass him in these measurements off top...

It feels like every team has a guy with 40 inches of bounce that can run.

Zeke’s point is also not that there’s 10 guys exactly built like MJ but there’s some amazing 10-11 guys with eye popping athleticism or unique athleticism.

Giannis and KD these two guys don’t have the highest vertical leap but they have fluidity and explosiveness at 7-feet that is rare and it’s game breaking. It was nothing like that in the 80’s.

And Kawhi beat Giannis and is the best player in the league currently , What you think MJ would do when Kawhi is a poor man's MJ?
 
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