is Wilder underrated?

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reservoirdogs said:
I see where you coming from with Marciano but Marciano still had an easily better record than Wilder, the two are not comparable, really.

He beat guys like Layne or LaStarza in their primes and those guys would be better than any of Wilder's win so far, the "old guys" he beat too would be easily the best wins of Wilder's ever, those old guys being Moore, Louis, Charles and Walcott. None of them were shot to pieces when they lost to Marciano either, they beat legit dudes on their way to the Marciano fight even if they were past prime. Moore had a great series of wins before the Marciano fight, Walcott was coming off beating Charles twice, Louis though certainly past prime had a solid series of wins before Marciano...

It's true that he padded his record with gimme fights but who are we kidding here comparing his resume to Wilder's as some proof of double standards? :mjlol:

You can find much better examples of white privilege in boxing than comparing Wilder to Marciano
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Is this a joke ? If Joe Louis was himself, he would of demolished Rocky in 4 rounds. Lol.
 
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He has 1 good win imo, Ortiz
Ortiz was a boogeyman with scary power when Wilder fought him the first time
He gets full credit for that win but rest of his wins are kinda trash
I guess he gets some credit for Stiverne too depending how good you think he was
 
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reservoirdogs said:
I see where you coming from with Marciano but Marciano still had an easily better record than Wilder, the two are not comparable, really.

He beat guys like Layne or LaStarza in their primes and those guys would be better than any of Wilder's win so far, the "old guys" he beat too would be easily the best wins of Wilder's ever, those old guys being Moore, Louis, Charles and Walcott. None of them were shot to pieces when they lost to Marciano either, they beat legit dudes on their way to the Marciano fight even if they were past prime. Moore had a great series of wins before the Marciano fight, Walcott was coming off beating Charles twice, Louis though certainly past prime had a solid series of wins before Marciano...

It's true that he padded his record with gimme fights but who are we kidding here comparing his resume to Wilder's as some proof of double standards? :mjlol:

You can find much better examples of white privilege in boxing than comparing Wilder to Marciano
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desjardins said:
He has 1 good win imo, Ortiz
Ortiz was a boogeyman with scary power when Wilder fought him the first time
He gets full credit for that win but rest of his wins are kinda trash
I guess he gets some credit for Stiverne too depending how good you think he was
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The first one versus Stiverne, people on here said he was ducking Breazale, Ortiz and that’s it. Some okay wins like Duhapas, Molina, Arreola but rest garbage. Also factor in he’s coming out of that trash ass era. There’s just more heavyweights around and Joshua gets first pick because it was seen as more winnable and more profitable. Also it’s better than that coke head Fury whose second best win is Chisora and no other wins after that.
 
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Bigblackted4 said:
Much much much better era, that’s not even comparable also some say Lewis has the best resume ever as far as names.
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I agree that was a much better era, Wilder hasn’t really fought the best of his era though in so many fights. By now he should have fought Wlad, Whyte, AJ, Fury, Ortiz, Povetkin, Parker, Martin (when he was champion) at the least and should be moving on to other challenges like Dubois, Hrgovic, Ruiz, Usyk and fighters like that. Considering the number of fights he’s had his resume is very poor.
 
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The Ruler 09 said:
I agree that was a much better era, Wilder hasn’t really fought the best of his era though in so many fights. By now he should have fought Wlad, Whyte, AJ, Fury, Ortiz, Povetkin, Parker, Martin (when he was champion) at the least and should be moving on to other challenges like Dubois, Hrgovic, Ruiz, Usyk and fighters like that. Considering the number of fights he’s had his resume is very poor.
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Says who? Why did t those guys sign those fights..he was begging Joshua just over a year ago..and they had a million stipulations instead of making the fight. Fury and Ortiz finally stepped up. That's been it. Povetkin is a cheater..his name means nothing.

Parker hasnt called out Wilder once..lol
 
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The Ruler 09 said:
I agree that was a much better era, Wilder hasn’t really fought the best of his era though in so many fights. By now he should have fought Wlad, Whyte, AJ, Fury, Ortiz, Povetkin, Parker, Martin (when he was champion) at the least and should be moving on to other challenges like Dubois, Hrgovic, Ruiz, Usyk and fighters like that. Considering the number of fights he’s had his resume is very poor.
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Again some of that wasn’t his fought, signed to fight Povetkin he popped dirty, Joshua offered Martin 8 million and Parker like 7 for those belts. Parker also was supposed to fight him but chose Joshua instead. Your right some of those names he should have fought but context is key.
 
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