Is this the reason female Rapper Rapsody hasn't been able to blow up?

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Brat nor Latifah were not as big when Kim and Foxy blew up. Even Brat's image became more revealing by the time she dropped Unrestricted. Latifah was a whole different era.

1997, sex raps were the thing just like it is now. You could say the talent level is different, but it wasn't anywhere as diverse as you're making it seem.
Brat was still as big, they did songs together. Brat was big from 94-01, Kim and Fox dropped their debut in fall of 96 and had plenty of features all of 95. Sex raps were around but they were not the entirety of what everyone was doing in the mainstream, even Kim and Foxy had way more than sex raps. The eras are not comparable at all. Just cuz two things existed doesn’t mean the two eras were moving anywhere near the same
 

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This was still the case 25-30 years ago. Foxy Brown and Lil' Kim were THE STANDARD for female rappers because of the sex appeal and they pushed sex and sex appeal. Missy Elliott and Lauryn Hill pushed through the status quo and thus became anamolies and became more successful than their counterparts. Not only vecoming more successful, but two of the biggest female rappers ever.

Lil Kim had body alterations, the wigs, and heavy make up. She was huge. Nothing has changed for female rap since that era except the sound. Same image. If we wanna talk strippers and what not. Eve was an ex stripper who became a rapper.
It's actually the opposite. Foxy and Kim were the anomalies.

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Name the year Kim and foxy came out and let's run down the list of active female rappers. Majority were just regular rappers not thot rappers.

The Kim transformation happened over time and majority of it was post Lauryn in 98.

Mentioning Eve did not support your case at all. Eve never represented as a thot rapper despite her past. She left it there. Neither as Eve of Destruction on Aftermath or as Eve on Ruff Ryder's.

This is all revisionist to make it look like shyt going on today was always like that.

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her music doesn’t sound good in 2024 and thats all there is to it. She make music for old heads that don’t buy or stream a lot of new music

I’m honestly not even sure why nikkas fukk with cole
Cole is easily the best rapper doing it right now. Stop it man. Ain't you an em Stan? Who does he make music for if old heads have no audience.

I never sees you dudes pull out your critic hats for Marshall. But everyone else. Buddy.... :skip:

I'll agree with you that her music isn't great and that has to do with production for me. For a label composed of producers mostly they make subpar shyt. On paper 9th and the soul council should be a power force. In reality they some mediocrity
 

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It's actually the opposite. Foxy and Kim were the anomalies.

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Name the year Kim and foxy came out and let's run down the list of active female rappers. Majority were just regular rappers not thot rappers.

The Kim transformation happened over time and majority of it was post Lauryn in 98.

Mentioning Eve did not support your case at all. Eve never represented as a thot rapper despite her past. She left it there. Neither as Eve of Destruction on Aftermath or as Eve on Ruff Ryder's.

This is all revisionist to make it look like shyt going on today was always like that.

:duck:

Kim and Foxy marked the shift though. MC Lyte was hot summer 96. After Hardcore and Ill Na Na dropped the whole game shifted. Brat was a platinum female MC in 1994. In 1996, she only went gold. Kim and Foxy went platinum. NEVER in Hip Hop was there two females dropping within weeks of each other going platinum. BOTH pushed sex.

Fast forward to 1997, we got Mia X's sophomore album. It went gold with a lead single that featured Foxy Brown. Missy Elliott dropped her debut and broke through the mold of what a female rapper looked and sounded like. Kim and Foxy were still huge.

1998, Lyte and Latifah dropped albums. Neither of those albums were successful despite the more modern sound. Kim is still hot. Foxy not so much. Lauryn Hill, of course blew up solo and made history.

In 1999, Lauryn is still hot. Kim is still hot. Foxy Brown still managed to go platinum. Eve broke through. You had new female rappers like Sole going the direction of Kim and Foxy. We saw Da Brat permed out in a cat suit. No braids. No baggy jeans.

I lived through all of this and could go on.
 
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