Is this all intentional sabotage of black masculinity :

[Wig Twistin Season]

the argument is of a greater conspiracy or lack of, you don't need to be a professional to see the obvious symbolism in that picture or it's inspiration. whereas Idris with a flower in his ear picture has none and people are superimposing some based on their own faulty mental faculty.

Regardless, every time a Black person does something questionable and seemingly out of place it is NOT because of some omnipotent white man the "they" in these stories or some larger conspiracy. Believe that a lot of those Black men made their own choices like Thugga and Kudi... there's a lot of images conflated here to tell one convoluted narrative. that narrative is making desperate reaches and grasps to attempt to validate itself. Michael B Jordan wearing a tailored large suit reminiscent of an updated zoot is not the same as a man in a dress... this is why conspiracy nuts can never get a proper point across, in a desperation for validity they will lie and embellish ...all that matters is their point not accuracy or the truth.

1. Do black men control how they are depicted in media?

2. If black men don’t control how the are depicted in media, who controls that?

3. Is the answer to question 2 a theory?

4. Why are the depictions of black men in media often polarizing and rarely as mundane as depictions of white men?

5. Is that polarization deliberate?

6. If so, why?

7. If it is deliberate and common to depict black men as either threatening or non threatening and rarely somewhere in between and capable of both at the same time, why is it deliberate and common?

8. If multiple entities are involved in these depictions, would that count as conspiring to do so?

9. If the commonality of images of effeminate black men has increased every year, is black male effeminate behavior increasing or is it being shown more?

10. Why to number 9?

 

[Bondye Vodou]

Black celebs been dressing fruity since the 70s.

shyt even Lil Richard was a thing.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

pressure for promises of more fame and fortune. they blacklist you or shun you out of the "in crowd".

MBJ should have said no i am a hero to these kids, i am not doing that shyt ... but i guess its difficult like the saying goes :

"under the devils wings are warmer than you think".

oh he really broke them by wearing a tailored oversized banana yellow suit... how will they ever recover?

 

[Bonk]

Battyboi fi dead.

 

[Kingofthereal]

Nope, the nikkas choose to wear that shyt.

 

[OperationNumbNutts]

It's upsetting but I don't mad anymore. If we don't control or influence our image this type of fyckery will continue. It's foolish to think otherwise. For those saying it's just fashion, you don't see any other race of men doing at this compacity.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

1. Do black men control how they are depicted in media?

Majority of media today is social and personal media. it is still overwhelmingly negative and stereotypical much more so even when it's us.

2. If black men don’t control how the are depicted in media, who controls that?

see first response... we are not in the era where all our media is going through outside gatekeepers and yet it has not gotten any better (depiction) just worse.

3. Is the answer to question 2 a theory?

the Black image has been manipulated but it's not a fact that every entertainer is manipulated or that they are being guided to do these things. much of it is choice today.

4. Why are the depictions of black men in media often polarizing and rarely as mundane as depictions of white men?

Traditionally it tended to be because it was not by our hands but even when we got the resources we didn't shift that perception so... you can go from shyt like rap videos to tyler perry and it's still Black and negative who's to blame?

5. Is that polarization deliberate?

yes some of it is malicious and other is intentional or reckless. everything is deliberate when you make media

6. If so, why?

redundant question

7. If it is deliberate and common to depict black men as either threatening or non threatening and rarely somewhere in between and capable of both at the same time, why is it deliberate and common?

take notes from the gays and jews if you need to. they keep a foot on their media depiction and don't allow themselves to be depicted in certain ways that we do still today.

8. If multiple entities are involved in these depictions, would that count as conspiring to do so?

NO because those multiple entities did not conspire together just because they all object to you. Today Black male image is being harmed by feminists by gay and lesbians in their media, by white men with a need to deconstruct Black masculinity. By opportunistic c00ns who want to make shock media depictions for clout, views money. By any haters. that doesn't mean that they sat down and conspired together because they have a common agenda or enemy. that's where this shyt gets absurd and ridiculous and the nut in conspiracy nut steps in.

9. If the commonality of images of effeminate black men has increased every year, is black male effeminate behavior increasing or is it being shown more?

you'd need a study on the coming out rate of gays... while doing that you could also contrast a study about how violent black male media has impacted gun violence. cuz if watching something can make you gay it can def influence you to be a crash dummy

10. Why to number 9?

unprotected class. time to start challenging media depictions of Black people in their entirety by everyone. not just they. present a unified stane on these matters... issue is a lot of the shyt you have objection with is accepted by a lot amongst us so while we are busy fighting the imagery you get someone like that faq Billy Porter who will undo all your work. now is he "they" or us?

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

Black celebs been dressing fruity since the 70s.

shyt even Lil Richard was a thing.

OP talking like he was born in 1998

 

[get these nets]

@ OP

Don't include Michael B Jordan on that list. I don't care if he's wearing those culottes. hehehehe

Nobody is sabotaging Black masculinity. Those grown men made conscious decision to wear those clothes, for whatever reason. Nitpicking them, and avoiding the majority of Black male celebs that wore traditional clothing at the same events is gossip blog stuff.

 

[BlackDiBiase]

@ OP

Don't include Michael B Jordan on that list. I don't care if he's wearing those culottes. hehehehe

Nobody is sabotaging Black masculinity. Those grown men made conscious decision to wear those clothes, for whatever reason. Nitpicking them, and avoiding the majority of Black male celebs that wore traditional clothing at the same events is gossip blog stuff.

i hear you.

but these guys rolling with stylist from their management, these stylist bare malicious intent bro. its been going on for a long while.

all these met gala red carpet events and those avant garde magazine shots, the shyt is too much.

coli isnt majority black so we cant chop it on the real intents ... although other posters have mentioned this.

no way in hell MBJ picked out that for himself, therefore being a nice guy and team player they pressured and got him looking like a gay banana.

 

[Wig Twistin Season]

Majority of media today is social and personal media. it is still overwhelmingly negative and stereotypical much more so even when it's us.

see first response... we are not in the era where all our media is going through outside gatekeepers and yet it has not gotten any better (depiction) just worse.

the Black image has been manipulated but it's not a fact that every entertainer is manipulated or that they are being guided to do these things. much of it is choice today.

Traditionally it tended to be because it was not by our hands but even when we got the resources we didn't shift that perception so... you can go from shyt like rap videos to tyler perry and it's still Black and negative who's to blame?

yes some of it is malicious and other is intentional or reckless. everything is deliberate when you make media

redundant question

take notes from the gays and jews if you need to. they keep a foot on their media depiction and don't allow themselves to be depicted in certain ways that we do still today.

NO because those multiple entities did not conspire together just because they all object to you. Today Black male image is being harmed by feminists by gay and lesbians in their media, by white men with a need to deconstruct Black masculinity. By opportunistic c00ns who want to make shock media depictions for clout, views money. By any haters. that doesn't mean that they sat down and conspired together because they have a common agenda or enemy. that's where this shyt gets absurd and ridiculous and the nut in conspiracy nut steps in.

you'd need a study on the coming out rate of gays... while doing that you could also contrast a study about how violent black male media has impacted gun violence. cuz if watching something can make you gay it can def influence you to be a crash dummy

unprotected class. time to start challenging media depictions of Black people in their entirety by everyone. not just they. present a unified stane on these matters... issue is a lot of the shyt you have objection with is accepted by a lot amongst us so while we are busy fighting the imagery you get someone like that faq Billy Porter who will undo all your work. now is he "they" or us?

I agree with you on us needing to control our depiction on social media, but look at the images we were fed over the past few decades, from the blaxploitation era, to now and it’s no surprise that a lot of our people have internalized the way we’ve been portrayed.

Regarding gatekeepers, look no further than FB/Instagram, their algorithms and who programs those. Also conglomerates control the globe and decisions are made at the top.

A handful of companies control almost everything we buy — and beer is the latest victim

These charts show how the "illusion of choice" has become an unavoidable reality for the modern American shopper.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[get these nets]

i hear you.

but these guys rolling with stylist from their management, these stylist bare malicious intent bro. its been going on for a long while.

all these met gala red carpet events and those avant garde magazine shots, the shyt is too much.

coli isnt majority black so we cant chop it on the real intents ... although other posters have mentioned this.

no way in hell MBJ picked out that for himself, therefore being a nice guy and team player they pressured and got him looking like a gay banana.

I get your point. I think one of the things consistently missing in these types of threads is agency, that individuals have control over their actions.
Too often people only focus on what others are doing to us, as if we are all puppets directed by remote control. The people who run media companies obviously do exert tremendous control over a lot of things, but they don't control everybody's every move.


Here is footage from the Premier. Cued to red carpet shots. Jordan is at 2:55. Looking like "one of these kids is doing his own thing" segment from Sesame Street. Hehehehe




* At these premieres, I'm generally interested in the name of the designer the celeb wears. Whether he or she is Black. I'm certain that Coogler is wearing a Black designer/tailor because he always keeps it 100.
If Jordan got those cullottes from Halsey Street in downtown Newark, I will let him live. hehehe

 

[BlackDiBiase]

I get your point. I think one of the things consistently missing in these types of threads is agency, that individuals have control over their actions.
Too often people only focus on what others are doing to us, as if we are all puppets directed by remote control. The people who run media companies obviously do exert tremendous control over a lot of things, but they don't control everybody's every move.


Here is footage from the Premier. Cued to red carpet shots. Jordan is at 2:55. Looking like "one of these kids is doing his own thing" segment from Sesame Street. Hehehehe




* At these premieres, I'm generally interested in the name of the designer the celeb wears. Whether he or she is Black. I'm certain that Coogler is wearing a Black designer/tailor because he always keeps it 100.
If Jordan got those cullottes from Halsey Street in downtown Newark, I will let him live. hehehe

yep like the great Dr John Henrik Clarke said "if someone is on your back, its because you have stooped a little to allow them". so i see what you are saying they need to man up but i am telling you that fast money and fame and sweet girls and adoration most would do anything to keep that.

yeah fashions dope, their very creative folks.

 

[Jazzy B.]

FEMINIZATION of black men via rap/hip hop and Hollywood imagery.

MASCULINIZATION of black women through being presented as "independent leaders".

 

[BlackDiBiase]

FEMINIZATION of black men via rap/hip hop and Hollywood imagery.

MASCULINIZATION of black women through being presented as "independent leaders".

same shyt :