Is there anything we could actually do to get our reparations for slavery?

[Red Shield]

The Jews control the west and quite a few whites claim that their native americans. Thats why those groups got somethin

Reparations ain't happenin for us without economic clout or military strength


Also the USA doesn't give a fukk about the UN. That shyt is basically league of nations pt2 status

 

[360dagod]

I think the study that John Conyer's (sp?) is trying to put together seems to me the most logical step. We can't appeal to whites sympathy/empathy because for the most part they have none due to the fact a large majority of them are in decent positions socially and economically. The only way to make a case for reparations is to come with facts gathered from hard data. Recently I've become more interested in what Ta'nahesi Coates (sp?) has been talking about with the housing discrimination aspect and think it will play a pivotal part in providing the data needed in Conyer's study. I also believe we need a significant amount of blacks on the same page, to get behind it and get the message out to those who aren't aware yet.

Johnny Cochran was trying to push for it and we seen how that turned out..

Them Cacs had enough of him at that point as is

 

[omnifax]

Johnny Cochran was trying to push for it and we seen how that turned out..

Them Cacs had enough of him at that point as is

True but we still have to try.

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

Like maybe a petition or call on the united nations etc probably stupid ideas but I'm just trying to find a way we can make it happen

Countries affected in ww1 got theirs and the Jews, Certain Native American clans and Japanese Americans who were held in camps during the war

Cry to the people that enslaved & killed our ancestors for justice brehs.

If a zebra can't change his stripes , then a white person will always be the devil. You are going to have to die fighting for yours when it comes to those sick b*stards

 

[360dagod]

True but we still have to try.

nothing will change unless we stop spending or blood is shed

Thats America's history

 

[360dagod]

There has to be a legal way for it to happen as well if we bring the issue to a worldwide forum where every country in the world hears out our case it could force the hand of the US to pay us for what they did as they promised

I don't want equality that's a pipe dream I want our reparation so more black people can start our own ecomony and practice exclusion

Imagine what the avg pro black men out here could do if they just had the money for it. Most of us aren't sellout its just the Oprah's and Tyler Perry are a very small few compared with the majority of black people who are middle class or very poor

Man if I had the money i would make our own blackwalmart, our own black shipping company so we could cut out the white man when trading with other countries. Have our own black CNN and MSNBC on television not just the internet where we hire our own people fresh out of highschool also our own private school's black militant teachers teaching real black history everything funded and owned by us

And you would be bankrupt and/or dead before they even got off the ground..

Breh...

History is your best teacher...

You are not gonna do anything of the sorts in current day America fam..

We cant even get cops convicted

If you wanted to do some stuff on a local level..sure it can work..

 

[Tommy Knocks]

you should start off with an outline

ill never understand how black folks want folks to do something with no clear end goal.

for example, youve started with what you want, but no actual numbers or data, how much do you want/expect? dont tell me youre leaving that up to the people youre asking money from.
think about how that works in the real world.

 

[Redeem87]

And you would be bankrupt and/or dead before they even got off the ground..

Breh...

History is your best teacher...

You are not gonna do anything of the sorts in current day America fam..

We cant even get cops convicted

If you wanted to do some stuff on a local level..sure it can work..

Very defeatists attitude to have we had black wallstreet and garvey tried to have a black starline his shipping company which was sabotaged imo which is why we need to practice exclusion

 

[Redeem87]

you should start off with an outline

ill never understand how black folks want folks to do something with no clear end goal.

for example, youve started with what you want, but no actual numbers or data, how much do you want/expect? dont tell me youre leaving that up to the people youre asking money from.
think about how that works in the real world.

I thought like maybe 4 mill for ever African American immediate family that's not to much to ask for now a days for what 10 percent of the population

 

[godkiller]

Like maybe a petition or call on the united nations etc probably stupid ideas but I'm just trying to find a way we can make it happen

Countries affected in ww1 got theirs and the Jews, Certain Native American clans and Japanese Americans who were held in camps during the war

We need to focus on creating better rhetorical arguments for reparations; parse reparations as something else other than reparations (as reparations, the word, is divisive); invoke people who have received reparations like Jews and make clear that blacks won't become superior to whites overnight because of reparations.

 

[The Coochie Assassin]

I thought like maybe 4 mill for ever African American immediate family that's not to much to ask for now a days for what 10 percent of the population

what is the criteria for "African-American"?

How is America going to deal with every African American family becoming millionaires overnight?

What will happen to the projects?

 

[Tommy Knocks]

I thought like maybe 4 mill for ever African American immediate family that's not to much to ask for now a days for what 10 percent of the population

right. do you know what happens to the % of people that that win the lotto and why?

I think more black people need to know that money is not an object and that money is in fact a tool before many cant handle that sort of money. its like giving a 6 yr old 10,000, the first thing he's going to do is buy candy and toys, he has no idea the true value of what he's holding (this is why the first thing rappers and anyonen from a poor family does is spend) what would happen if the 6 year old walks into a middle school with his stack? he'd get swindled.

after the vast majority of AAs put their money back into the jewish mans hands (because he is far more understanding of money) what excuse will you have then for the people? will you then state we're even with whites? no more complaints? even after half the people go broke again? sure some will know exactly what to do, and some will build, but all this will do is make a bigger elite class (yes black people have an elite class) but it wont change the vast majority. many will buy property only to not know how to maintain it and devalue entire neighborhoods because theyre not proficient in real estate and had never been taught. the only good that may come of it is more kids going to college.

throwing money at poor people has never worked, we've seen that with africa. if anything free college might be ideal but then the other populations will hold a lot of resentment and use the law to bar college grads from jobs (they're only here because of assistance), you're gonna cause a lot of social mayhem.

best thing and only thing to do is make federal tax free for AAs the way the native americans dont pay tax.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Some good reading on the subject here with some possible actions to be followed......

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/crcl/vol38_2/ogletree.pdf​

 

[notPsychosiz]

Like maybe a petition or call on the united nations etc probably stupid ideas but I'm just trying to find a way we can make it happen

Countries affected in ww1 got theirs and the Jews, Certain Native American clans and Japanese Americans who were held in camps during the war

UN has no control over the US.

One of the things that could be done (asside from simply taking it by force) is withholding labor en masse.
Short of continual refusal by blacks to work in any capacity... medical fields, educational, political, legal, construction, etc the simplest and easiest outlet would be complete refusal of military enlistment for ALL branches. Full stop on anyone black enlisting into army, navy, airforce, marines, national guard, etc would cripple the US defense forcast for decades. It would be insurmountable and need to be addressed and resolved.

This is how India received independence from Britain by the way.
They threatened to pull out all Indians that were in the British army durring WW2. They were immediately given what they wanted and received their independence in 1947 once the war was officially over.

Blacks shouldn't be defending America anyway. It doesn't defend you.

Right now a large portion of the Army and military is black. Especially the infantry and other fodder MOS's meant to be first in to die.

 

[Micron]

It is questionable whether reparations in the form of monetary compensation would improve Black America, based on it's current overall mentality. Spending money outside of Black communities is a serious problem that needs to be addressed before any real economic progress can be made. Reparations would not be effective if those receiving them put it in the pockets of everyone else but themselves. Although perhaps that is the argument that needs to be made; if Black people were given monetary reparations, it would just boost the economy from all of the spending.

If Black people living in America would simply invest their money in their own communities, rather than spending it elsewhere, it would have a huge financial impact on America. With that increase in economic power it would be possible to get laws passed that address various forms of discrimination that Black Americans deals with. Legal reforms, and changes to the criminal justice system could be more beneficial long term to the Black community than straight monetary dispensation.