Is there an R&B artist that has come out in the last 20 (35) years that is more gifted than R. Kelly???

[Take It In Blood]

Never 4get Kellz made a song for Batman brehs



Batman

 

[BlackMajik]

Within the same time frame? The names that I immediately think of are Aretha, Roberta Flack, Mariah & Alicia Keys. My personal favorites would be Jill Scott & India Arie, but I’m not sure if they wrote most of their songs anyway. From what I know, none of the women listed have wrote much for other artists either. So I don’t know. School me.

I was hoping u would school me lol

But from a quick glance I think Jill Scott and Alicia Keyes did write or co-write most of their own stuff

Andfor not mentioning Beyonce

 

[BlackMajik]

@LovelyOne Oh and I forgot all about India Arie

And I know my girl Mary J Blige co-wrote a lot of her sophmore album

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

If we maintain that R&B, as we know it, dates back to Louis Jordan in the 1940s, that
gives us almost 80 years of a library for the genre.

Out of those 80s years, its safe to say that the last twenty years has marked the creative and commercial
decline of R&B.

So Robert Kelly is without question, the last stellar, mega-prolific, multi-threat R&B/soul artist, similar in impact to Jordan, Curtis Mayfield, James Brown, Aretha Franklin, Stevie Wonder, Rick James, Prince, Michael Jackson, Lionel Richie, Babyface.

But R. Kelly has had little competition for two decades, since he has presided over the ashes of a once-magnificent form of expression.

 

[southern.girl]

I was hoping u would school me lol

But from a quick glance I think Jill Scott and Alicia Keyes did write or co-write most of their own stuff

Andfor not mentioning Beyonce

Bey is the Cardi B of song writing. LOL. Anywho...I found two more female song writers. Missy, (Ashford) & Valerie Simpson.

You’re right. Mary has written some hits. And I forgot about Faith.

 

[King Poetic]

Not even close

 

[BlackMajik]

Bey is the Cardi B of song writing. LOL. Anywho...I found two more female song writers. Missy, (Ashford) & Valerie Simpson.

You’re right. Mary has written some hits. And I forgot about Faith.

How did I 4get about my girl Missy

And good pick with Ashford & Simpson

@ that Bey comment. U don't seem like u scared of the Beyhive tho lol

 

[Taadow]

He only had 2 remakes between his albums

Bullchit.

"Cruisin'"
"Feel Like Making Love"
"Funky Drummer"
"Everybody Loves The Sunshine"

...and that's just off top.

 

[Taadow]

From what I understand, LA Reid was the business and Babyface was the writer.

Naw...LA was the beats (and some writing), and Face was the lyrics.

You can see the difference when Babyface went solo and started producing his chit and was kicking them snoozers.

My vote would be for Babyface, Brian McKnight & y’all ain’t putting nearly enough respect on Raphael Saadiq’s name.

While I agree...they predate the time frame of this convo.

However, Kells is still, at minimum, top 10 because he’s crossed so many styles. Literally, the same man that wrote 12 Play also wrote I Believe I Can Fly, MJ’s You Are Not Alone, Maxwell’s Fortunate, When a Woman Loves & K Ci/JoJo’s Life. Then he reintroduced Ron Isley & Charlie Wilson to a younger crowd. Who does that?

Agree.

And I mean, this ain't even talking about:
Changing Faces' "Stroke You Up", "Foolin' Around"
Men At Large "Let's Talk About It"
Blaque "808"
Toni Braxton "I Don't Want To"
Chante Moore "Bitter"
Hi-Five "Quality Time"
ATL "Calling All Girls"

 

[BlackMajik]

Naw...LA was the beats (and some writing), and Face was the lyrics.

You can see the difference when Babyface went solo and started producing his chit and was kicking them snoozers.



While I agree...they predate the time frame of this convo.



Agree.

And I mean, this ain't even talking about:
Changing Faces' "Stroke You Up", "Foolin' Around"
Men At Large "Let's Talk About It"
Blaque "808"
Toni Braxton "I Don't Want To"
Chante Moore "Bitter"
Hi-Five "Quality Time"
ATL "Calling All Girls"

I extended the time frame to 35 years

 

[Geek Nasty]

When you count his catalog, collaborations, writing? I'm not even a big RK fan and I don't see anybody touching the volume and quality he put out

 

[southern.girl]

@ that Bey comment. U don't seem like u scared of the Beyhive tho lol

The hive is unhinged. LOL

Naw...LA was the beats (and some writing), and Face was the lyrics.

You can see the difference when Babyface went solo and started producing his chit and was kicking them snoozers.

When year was that? Because Babyface was still making some good songs (not as consistent though) in the early 2000s (ex. The Loneliness & What If).

But you do still have a point. I did notice a shift in both Brian McKnight & Babyface’s artistry after they separated from their 1st wives.

 

[Supreme365]

Bullchit.

"Cruisin'"
"Feel Like Making Love"
"Funky Drummer"
"Everybody Loves The Sunshine"

...and that's just off top.

Funky drummer and everybody loves the sunshine weren’t on his albums stop jiving

 

[Taadow]

When year was that? Because Babyface was still making some good songs (not as consistent though) in the early 2000s (ex. The Loneliness & What If).

I'm talmbat the mid-90s, around The Day, when he was lowkey making acoustic country music.

 

[419scam]

At beyonce, the weekend or fukking chris brown, we talking about constantly making hits for himself and a bunch of other people since the late 80s not some little 3 year run with 3-4 hit singles. Nobody touches robert besides his new cellmates next year. He‘s a legend

Spoiler

but still fukk him