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Is there a black version of Ghengis Khan or Alxander the Great?
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Gunz&Butta
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Power over what exactly? I can understand living in a arid desert and invading your neighbors for their fertile land and all. But what the fvck was Alexander looking for in Afghanistan?Wanting power isnt a white thing
The faggit had a few chromosomes missing and had to kill millions of people to feel like a man.He probably had ADHD or something
NoirDynosaur
Yurrrrrrrrrr
Western public education doesn't teach folks about African history, it's mostly hidden for obvious reasons. I had to self teach myself about African civilizations, rulers, empires from the Coli (shout out to Diasporan Royalty) and such from Youtube.
Some additions:
Nana Yaa Asantewa
Taharga
(Stories of African Kings and Queens that should be films - The Callsheet)
Some additions:
Nana Yaa Asantewa
Taharga
(Stories of African Kings and Queens that should be films - The Callsheet)
Amor fati
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King David
Hacksaw Jim Thuggin
Superstar
this is the part that gets glossed over in the movies....
Amor fati
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You guys might find this interesting on strategist
KING JAJA OF OPOBO
a Ja of Opobo
Birth: c. 1820
Death: 1891
Nationality: Nigerian
Occupation: politician, nationalist, slave
Source: Encyclopedia of World Biography, 2nd ed. 17 Vols. Gale Research, 1998.
BIOGRAPHICAL ESSAY
JaJa of Opobo (ca. 1820-1891) was a political and military strategist, brought to the Bonny Kingdom as a slave, who was perhaps the most troublesome thorn in the flesh of 19th-century British imperial ambition in southern Nigeria.
The story of Ja Ja recounts a man of servile status hurdling intimidating odds to attain wealth and power, and founding in the latter half of the 19th century the most prosperous city-state in the Delta area of Nigeria. Information regarding his parentage and early childhood, derived from uncertain and speculative oral tradition, is scanty and unsatisfactory. According to informed guesstimates, Ja Ja was born in 1820 or 1821, in the lineage of Umuduruoha of Amaigbo village group in the heartland of Igboland, Southeastern Nigeria. He was sold into slavery in the Niger Delta under circumstances which are far from clear. One version of the oral traditions says that he was sold because, as a baby, he cut the upper teeth first, an abominable phenomenon in traditional Igbo society. Another version claims that he was captured and sold by his father’s enemy. Regardless, he was bought by Chief Iganipughuma Allison of Bonny, by far the most powerful city-state on the Atlantic coast of Southeastern Nigeria before the rise of Opobo.
To follow the Ja Ja story or, indeed, revolution, an explanatory note is necessary. Until the end of the 19th century, the Delta communities played a crucial role in European and American trade with Nigeria. Acting as middlemen, these communities carried into the interior markets the trade goods of European and American supercargoes stationed on the coast and brought back in exchange the export produce of the hinterland, basically palm oil. As the Delta is dominated by saline swamps and crisscrossed by a labyrinth of creeks and rivers, the canoe was indispensable for trade.
The Delta society was organized in Canoe Houses. A Canoe House was the pivot of social organization and also, notes K.O. Dike, “a cooperative trading unit and a local government institution.” It was usually composed of a wealthy merchant (its founder), his family, and numerous slaves owned by him. A prosperous house could comprise several thousand members, both free and bonded, owning hundreds of trade canoes. In this inte
nsely competitive society, leadership by merit–not by birth or ascriptions–was necessary if a house was to make headway in the turbulent, cut-throat competition that existed between houses. Any person with the charisma and proven ability, even if of servile birth, could rise to the leadership of a house, but could never become king. Ja Ja would achieve this, and much more.
Finding young Ja Ja too headstrong for his liking, Chief Allison made a gift of him to his friend, Madu, a chief of the Anna Pepple House, one of the two houses of the royal family (the other being the Manilla Pepple House). Ja Ja was slotted into the lowest rung of the Bonny slave society ladder, that of an imported slave, distinct from that of someone who was of slave parentage but born in the Delta.
As a youth, he worked as a paddler on his owner’s great trade canoes, traveling to and from the inland markets. Quite early, he demonstrated exceptional abilities and business acumen, quickly identified with the Ijo custom of the Delta, and won the hearts of the local people as well as those of the European supercargoes. It was unusual for a slave of his status to make the transition from canoe paddling to trading, but Ja Ja–through his honesty, business sense, and amiability–soon became prosperous.
For a long while, Ja Ja turned his back on Bonny politics, concentrating his immense energies on accumulating wealth through trade, the single most important criterion to power in the Delta. At the time, Bonny politics were volatile as a result of the irreconcilable and acrimonious contest for supremacy between the Manilla Pepple House and the Anna Pepple House to which Ja Ja belonged. Coincidentally, both houses were led by remarkable characters of Igbo slave origins–Oko Jumbo of the Manilla House and Madu (after him Alali his son) of the Anna House.
I tried to add the full atrticle but the word count was too much
If you guys are interested you can read the full article on him here:King Jaja of Opobo | Rasta Livewire
KING JAJA OF OPOBO
a Ja of Opobo
Birth: c. 1820
Death: 1891
Nationality: Nigerian
Occupation: politician, nationalist, slave
Source: Encyclopedia of World Biography, 2nd ed. 17 Vols. Gale Research, 1998.
BIOGRAPHICAL ESSAY
JaJa of Opobo (ca. 1820-1891) was a political and military strategist, brought to the Bonny Kingdom as a slave, who was perhaps the most troublesome thorn in the flesh of 19th-century British imperial ambition in southern Nigeria.
The story of Ja Ja recounts a man of servile status hurdling intimidating odds to attain wealth and power, and founding in the latter half of the 19th century the most prosperous city-state in the Delta area of Nigeria. Information regarding his parentage and early childhood, derived from uncertain and speculative oral tradition, is scanty and unsatisfactory. According to informed guesstimates, Ja Ja was born in 1820 or 1821, in the lineage of Umuduruoha of Amaigbo village group in the heartland of Igboland, Southeastern Nigeria. He was sold into slavery in the Niger Delta under circumstances which are far from clear. One version of the oral traditions says that he was sold because, as a baby, he cut the upper teeth first, an abominable phenomenon in traditional Igbo society. Another version claims that he was captured and sold by his father’s enemy. Regardless, he was bought by Chief Iganipughuma Allison of Bonny, by far the most powerful city-state on the Atlantic coast of Southeastern Nigeria before the rise of Opobo.
To follow the Ja Ja story or, indeed, revolution, an explanatory note is necessary. Until the end of the 19th century, the Delta communities played a crucial role in European and American trade with Nigeria. Acting as middlemen, these communities carried into the interior markets the trade goods of European and American supercargoes stationed on the coast and brought back in exchange the export produce of the hinterland, basically palm oil. As the Delta is dominated by saline swamps and crisscrossed by a labyrinth of creeks and rivers, the canoe was indispensable for trade.
The Delta society was organized in Canoe Houses. A Canoe House was the pivot of social organization and also, notes K.O. Dike, “a cooperative trading unit and a local government institution.” It was usually composed of a wealthy merchant (its founder), his family, and numerous slaves owned by him. A prosperous house could comprise several thousand members, both free and bonded, owning hundreds of trade canoes. In this inte
nsely competitive society, leadership by merit–not by birth or ascriptions–was necessary if a house was to make headway in the turbulent, cut-throat competition that existed between houses. Any person with the charisma and proven ability, even if of servile birth, could rise to the leadership of a house, but could never become king. Ja Ja would achieve this, and much more.
Finding young Ja Ja too headstrong for his liking, Chief Allison made a gift of him to his friend, Madu, a chief of the Anna Pepple House, one of the two houses of the royal family (the other being the Manilla Pepple House). Ja Ja was slotted into the lowest rung of the Bonny slave society ladder, that of an imported slave, distinct from that of someone who was of slave parentage but born in the Delta.
As a youth, he worked as a paddler on his owner’s great trade canoes, traveling to and from the inland markets. Quite early, he demonstrated exceptional abilities and business acumen, quickly identified with the Ijo custom of the Delta, and won the hearts of the local people as well as those of the European supercargoes. It was unusual for a slave of his status to make the transition from canoe paddling to trading, but Ja Ja–through his honesty, business sense, and amiability–soon became prosperous.
For a long while, Ja Ja turned his back on Bonny politics, concentrating his immense energies on accumulating wealth through trade, the single most important criterion to power in the Delta. At the time, Bonny politics were volatile as a result of the irreconcilable and acrimonious contest for supremacy between the Manilla Pepple House and the Anna Pepple House to which Ja Ja belonged. Coincidentally, both houses were led by remarkable characters of Igbo slave origins–Oko Jumbo of the Manilla House and Madu (after him Alali his son) of the Anna House.
I tried to add the full atrticle but the word count was too much
If you guys are interested you can read the full article on him here:King Jaja of Opobo | Rasta Livewire
Ricky Dunigan
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My older brother would smack me if he knew i couldnt answer this off hand. Dude had the Kings/Conquerers of Africa posters all over his wall when we lived together
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
Facts, but Ghengis was legit/a beast though. If he hadnt of took himself out on some fluke shyt he would've conquered more than the large percentage he did, breh was of a mixed race too
NormanConnors
Detroit/MSU Spartan Life
Excellent post
Amor fati
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Not a Khan or alexender type
Thomas-Alexandre Dumas
Was a general of the French Revolution
Thomas-Alexandre Dumas
Was a general of the French Revolution
Amor fati
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Genghis was indeed a beast, insane and extremly scary, the mongols where on another level utilizing novel mobility tactics on horseback while his soliders shot at enemies with bone arrow's his men where also good at deception by fake retreating and attacking turfs with a shyt ton of unmounted horses for the purpose to trick his enemies that they are outnumbered. The Mongols could have gone further through Hungary but due in fighting shyt went left.Facts, but Ghengis was legit/a beast though. If he hadnt of took himself out on some fluke shyt he would've conquered more than the large percentage he did, breh was of a mixed race too
Trot LaRoc
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Dessalines
Hannibal
Toure
Hannibal
Toure
Yea...
Alexander once went through a town and slaughtered everybody within the city’s walls. Men, women and children. Talking like 10,000 people. They raped the women and girls too before killing them Their crime you ask? Not wanting him to take over their city. They tried to retreat behind their walls/gates, had enough food to last for a few years and hoped he would get tired of not being able to get into the city and leave. When he finally did get in he killed them all for their “disobedience”. He once burned a whole city to the ground and killed everyone AFTER they gave his men much needed food and water due to them were thousands of miles away from home. Their crime? Being the descendants of Greeks and Macedonians whobetrayed his ancestors by siding with the Persians and in result, starting a city in Asia that Alexander later ran into (a blessing for them since he and his men was starving and dying of thirst). Dude was a fukkin psycho. They don’t include that shyt in the movies. You gotta read various books on him to get the real deal. He died of fever, was in pain for days. He deserved it. Probably had classical era AIDS from fukking boys. If there’s an afterlife, he definitely didn’t go to paradise.
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