Is the whole illegal immigrants thing just crabs in a bucket?

[Digital Omen]

I've asked myself: self, did every Italian, Irish, German, Polack, Jew, etc all come in legally through Ellis Island? That's the myth right? Like in The Godfather.
This is all bullshyt. It's just Hispanic's turn now. Sold out by the spineless noodle Lil Marco and the Cuban congressional delegation. Not a word from Diaz-Balart and the other scumbag.
The older immigrants look down on the new immigrants, tale as old as time.
Old political hard line Cubans (who still call themselves "exiles" despite being here since the 60s) despise the new ones who've arrived in the past 2 decades.
The new ones go back all the time, the old ones never went back and consider it treason to do so
the new ones are poorer and darker, the old ones are richer and whiter
the new ones grew up in communism, the old ones in capitalism
so and so on. Same exact dynamic applies to Nicaraguans and Venezuelans (the 2nd and 3rd biggest Latin community after Cubans in Miami)
The older set came during civil war/Ortega and Chavez early days
The new ones more recent, parole, TPS, etc.

Understand this: Hispanic boomers are to the right of trump down here. They want everyone that came after them deported. It is what it is.

 

[Buddy]

So we should find a way to plug those jobs without migrants. It's doable.

Which jobs are you talking about? Either way you're making my point. The migrant jobs are finna be meant for uneducated Americans. H1-B is being strengthened under Trump... "we have to have a lot of competent people, we need smart people"

 

[fifth column]

As long as they're being deported, arrested, attacked, drowned or killed idc what they're called as long as they're not welcomed here

How does any influx of non-Blacks benefits you or I?

I’m not out here trying to compete with undocumented immigrants, at the end of the day we all just trying to better our lives and in the end we will all be the same fertilizer for insects and worms.

 

[Wepa Man]

Crabs in a bucket? They ain’t one of us

And what jobs do they do that Americans won’t?

 

[heavenlywings77]

Which jobs are you talking about? Either way you're making my point. The migrant jobs are finna be meant for uneducated Americans. H1-B is being strengthened under Trump... "we have to have a lot of competent people, we need smart people"

I halfway agree with the 1st point.
The 2nd part ehhhh,
That's your interpretation of what he's saying.

 

[Fill Collins]

I’m not out here trying to compete with undocumented immigrants, at the end of the day we all just trying to better our lives and in the end we will all be the same fertilizer for insects and worms.

I am NOT talking about jobs, I'm talking about their politics, anti-Black culture and their willingness to be used by the 1%

Their future children are taught this bootstrap bullshyt, look down on Black people and would vote Republican... they're misogynistic, homophobic and religious

I'm from Miami, I don't feel this way about Black immigrants and refugees, hispanics gladly turned this city and state red

 

[Born2BKing]

I find it amazing how the argument about many of them from below the border being very racist and even supporters of Trump is being ignored. Why should we as Black people support the influx of a people who are outright racist towards us, cause harm to us when they outnumber us, and have shown many times in actual news articles how they will harm us when they feel they have the upperhand?

Why should we support a people who have come from nations that treat their own Black people like shyte, that champion the idea of the removal of all non-White blood from their genepool as demonstrated by their saying of, "Mejorar la Raza". The phrase meaning, 'improve the race.' It implies that you should marry or have children with a whiter person so you'll have better-looking kids. Why should we as Black Americans support a major influx of these sort of people into the country illegally?

Please, explain why we should be open to a people coming here who outright hate us?

You know who treats black people like shyt? These fukking crackas who run America. In my 40 years of living, I never experienced racism from Juan or Carlos but I have from Bill and Josh. Ain't shyt an illegal immigrant can do to me because they are powerless. If you are stuck working fast food or in the fields, then maybe you should level up. No way you should be competing with illegals for anything as a grown ass man.

 

[TripleAgent]

This is accurate. Remember it was muslims a few years back? Now it's illegal immigrants who are going to come through your window and kill your entire family. It's sad to see black folks fall into conservative propaganda, yet here we are. Politics 101 is to create a boogie man, and then pitch to the people how you are the hero who will stop the boogie man. Ladies and gentlemen you have Donald Trump.

Your mans Obama was in office when this report was done and published, so how will you spin this?

The Impact of Illegal Immigration on the Wages and Employment Opportunities of Black Workers

The report examines evidence for economic loss and job opportunity costs to black workers attributable to illegal immigration.

www.usccr.gov

https://www.usccr.gov/files/pubs/docs/IllegImmig_10-14-10_430pm.pdf

 

[CrimsonTider]

How is it felt? A lot of there people are even paying taxes into the system.

Unregulated entry of undocumented, unvaccinated, un traceable people out a strain on local governments and communities

It absolutely is something that has to be regulated

 

[Buddy]

I halfway agree with the 1st point.
The 2nd part ehhhh,
That's your interpretation of what he's saying.

The two go hand in hand, just walk thru the logic: Elon and Vivek infuriated the public with claims that American's aren't educated or competent enough for high paying jobs > Trump affirmed it > there are NO plans on improving education standards on national level > in fact education is being destroyed


What else does this lead to, if not a worsening of American workers and prioritization of H1-B's etc?

 

[the bossman]

They're just an easy punching bag because they have no power or rights.

Their being here does little to hurt black people compared to the foot on neck policies of white supremacy - the real problem.

So you'll have black people believing in this dream of "once we get the illegal immigrants out then white people will allow us to flourish"

 

[Born2BKing]

Your mans Obama was in office when this report was done and published, so how will you spin this?

The Impact of Illegal Immigration on the Wages and Employment Opportunities of Black Workers

The report examines evidence for economic loss and job opportunity costs to black workers attributable to illegal immigration.

www.usccr.gov

https://www.usccr.gov/files/pubs/docs/IllegImmig_10-14-10_430pm.pdf

The fact that we are competing with illegals is a problem in itself and shows why we have bigger fish to fry in this country. You are doing EXACTLY what the Republican party wants you to do though. I mean they couldn't ask for more out of you. That division and distraction.

 

[TripleAgent]

The fact that we are competing with illegals is a problem in itself and shows why we have bigger fish to fry in this country. You are doing EXACTLY what the Republican party wants you to do though. I mean they couldn't ask for more out of you. That division and distraction.

So...we should support being supplanted by illegals be cause your chosen cacs with a D by their names said so? Why would we do that? It's been hurting Black people for decades. No Democrat excuses or narrative can change that FACT.

 

[Yzak]

Of course it is

Its meant to create further division, economic and social.

Sure theres a couple of bad ppl coming in. And a strong border is super necessary.

But instead of making them taxpayers and creating a stronger working class, its turned into another war on ppl who just want to work.

Theres a middle ground that no one really cares to settle on.

Plus the general public will always fall victim to a boogie man. We know the history of this country but always fall for the same play.

How you let white ppl, again, create a bully that will come and rap and pillage your neighborhoods? Sound familiar?

You don't create a stronger working class by flooding in cheaper labor at all skill levels

 

[Born2BKing]

So...we should support being supplanted by illegals be cause your chosen cacs with a D by their names said so? Why would we do that? It's been hurting Black people for decades. No Democrat excuses or narrative can change that FACT.

So you mean them illegals are taking our fast food jobs? You blame them for supplanting us and not white supremacy huh? What do you think the real reason is we are still stuck battling for the lowest of low when it comes to jobs? Venezuelans? Mexican who can't speak english?