Is the whole illegal immigrants thing just crabs in a bucket?

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It depends it’s a mix of xenophobia and legitimate concern I remember my this hood barbershop in Delaware had Black Americans barbers always complaining and joking that the Haitian immigrants was taking the apartment complex next to the shop over (this was like 2015). So I don’t know if the residents felt pushed out or what but at the same time the Haitian nikkas brought a lot of new business to the shop as well and kind of blended into the community well don’t really cause problems idk in other communities immigrants are really causing trouble like that but to bring a huge population of foreigners to a town struggling in resources can have it’s pros and cons.


Haitians do not blend into anywhere unless they don't have their own communities yet.

They work diligently to drive out any non Haitians over a long period of time, like all other demographics (minus FBA)
 

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These are bullshyt justifications the myth of the hard working illegal immigrant is a lie that needs to be debunked you literally have rich immigrants who are coming here on HB1 visas that got way more money than you or me stop being a bleeding heart and realized the native born black workers are being short changed for these people...:what: Like i said NO OTHER COUNTRY WOULD PROP UP ILLEGALS WITH THEIR CITIZENS TAX DOLLARS and giving them amnesty.. oh they deserve a better life, like theirs not a hundred other countries to go to???:what:
Why wre you talking about people coming here on visas? This is about illegal immigrants.
I’m never gonna refer to another person as illegal, they are undocumented immigrants.

Let these maga scumbags brainwash y’all into saying stupid shyt :snoop:
MAGA didn't invent the term If they're here illegally then they're illegal immigrants. You may have feelings about the word illegal but it has a meaning and that meaning applies.

: not according to or authorized by law : unlawful, illicit
They are immigrants here not authorized by law. They are exactly illegal immigrants.
 

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Of course it is

Its meant to create further division, economic and social.

Sure theres a couple of bad ppl coming in. And a strong border is super necessary.

But instead of making them taxpayers and creating a stronger working class, its turned into another war on ppl who just want to work.

Theres a middle ground that no one really cares to settle on.

Plus the general public will always fall victim to a boogie man. We know the history of this country but always fall for the same play.

How you let white ppl, again, create a bully that will come and rap and pillage your neighborhoods? Sound familiar?
 

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Why wre you talking about people coming here on visas? This is about illegal immigrants.

MAGA didn't invent the term If they're here illegally then they're illegal immigrants. You may have feelings about the word illegal but it has a meaning and that meaning applies.


They are immigrants here not authorized by law. They are exactly illegal immigrants.



Bro, they know all this. Liars gonna lie.
 

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Bro, they know all this. Liars gonna lie.
Part of the reason we are here at Trump 2.0 as a country is because people can't see past their own perspective and empathize with others. It only figures that a country that lacks empathy would have the king of lacking empathy as it's president.

I still haven't lost sight of the fact that I could have been born in some other country facing what those people face. My opinions on illegal immigrants isn't born of my own privilege of being a natural born American citizen but from my ability to see past that.

Hell doesn't it cost more to hunt these people down and deport them than it would to extend them citizenship and fully incorporate them into American society? I'm all for getting rid of the criminals but they're clearly the minority. The majority of these people are here trying to live a better life and many of them pay taxes into the system.
 

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Part of the reason we are here at Trump 2.0 as a country is because people can't see past their own perspective and empathize with others. It only figures that a country that lacks empathy would have the king of lacking empathy as it's president.

I still haven't lost sight of the fact that I could have been born in some other country facing what those people face. My opinions on illegal immigrants isn't born of my own privilege of being a natural born American citizen but from my ability to see past that.

Hell doesn't it cost more to hunt these people down and deport them than it would to extend them citizenship and fully incorporate them into American society? I'm all for getting rid of the criminals but they're clearly the minority. The majority of these people are here trying to live a better life and many of them pay taxes into the system.



Your seeing things in a way that's convenient to you.

Your making a choice to remain dogmatic in your views regarding this issue.

For starters, no country should let people break laws willingly. That's a ridiculous premise


It's nasty work pivoting between legal migrants and in the same token, covertly switching to illegal immigrants in the same explanation.

Your interchanging the 2.

Devious work
 

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Haitians do not blend into anywhere unless they don't have their own communities yet.

They work diligently to drive out any non Haitians over a long period of time, like all other demographics (minus FBA)
They have their own community in Dover De and south of that their probably the largest immigrant group in Delaware and for the most part Black Americans and Haitians in Delaware fukk with each other nikkas like I said they blended in. They go to the same schools live in the same neighborhoods frequent the same businesses work the same jobs nikkas be on the Haitians girls Haitian nikkas be on the American joints and there’s a lot of black businesses in Delaware that Haitians frequent really never had no problems like that its some nikkas in Dover that even speak Creole that’s how much they rock with each other especially people 30 and below. It’s mostly white people in the rural parts of Delaware have a real problem with Haitians and they all on dog food anyway. Can’t speak for all of fba though I’m Jamaican but just off what I’ve observed it’s never been any real problems between those two groups in Delaware
 
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Your seeing things in a way that's convenient to you.

Your making a choice to remain dogmatic in your views regarding this issue.

For starters, no country should let people break laws willingly. That's a ridiculous premise


It's nasty work pivoting between legal migrants and in the same token, covertly switching to illegal immigrants in the same explanation.

Your interchanging the 2.

Devious work
Our own president broke laws.
: not according to or authorized by law : unlawful, illicit

: a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence
So you're saying it's nasty work to say people who illegally or not authorized by law came to another country to permanently (they hope) take up residence are illegal immigrants?

In fact if you look up the word migrant it just leads you back to immigrant. How is it nasty work?

 

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Our own president broke laws.



So you're saying it's nasty work to say people who illegally or not authorized by law came to another country to permanently (they hope) take up residence are illegal immigrants?

In fact if you look up the word migrant it just leads you back to immigrant. How is it nasty work?




So are you saying that's how it should be from now on? This should be the template???

Since Trump broke laws there should be no more laws?
 

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I'm convinced that at this point people will never get it or just don't WANT to get it. Its well known and documented that John Tanton spent decades astroturfing immigration. Meanwhile Trump is plugging "Gold cards" and H1-B visas. Maybe it'll finally click when people realize those jobs illegals did are meant to be filled by THEM.

Trump is out here gutting education. Yall/your kids ain't finna learn shyt. The jobs with good money are finna go to H1-B's that are more "competent and educated" than you. Gold card members are gonna run the same kinda shyt as Elon on the lobbying level.... bBbUt tHe iMMiGrAnTs ArE tAkInG oUr JoBs!!!
 

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They can spend billions on war, weapons of death, and killing foreigners and not a peep from many of the masses but if an illegal immigrant comes over here and likely takes a dirty job doing shit Americans don't want to do people are raising hell.

I don't really get the vitriol to illegal immigrants. I'm unbothered by them.

Historically illegal immigration has put downward pressure on wages for all low-skilled jobs, especially among Black Americans.
 

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I'm convinced that at this point people will never get it or just don't WANT to get it. Its well known and documented that John Tanton spent decades astroturfing immigration. Meanwhile Trump is plugging "Gold cards" and H1-B visas. Maybe it'll finally click when people realize those jobs illegals did are meant to be filled by THEM.

Trump is out here gutting education. Yall/your kids ain't finna learn shyt. The jobs with good money are finna go to H1-B's that are more "competent and educated" than you. Gold card members are gonna run the same kinda shyt as Elon on the lobbying level.... bBbUt tHe iMMiGrAnTs ArE tAkInG oUr JoBs!!!



So we should find a way to plug those jobs without migrants. It's doable.
 

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They can spend billions on war, weapons of death, and killing foreigners and not a peep from many of the masses but if an illegal immigrant comes over here and likely takes a dirty job doing shit Americans don't want to do people are raising hell.

I don't really get the vitriol to illegal immigrants. I'm unbothered by them.



False, people rally against all that shyt here.
 
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