Is Steve Stoute a hack? I'm listening to the breakfast club & he sounds like a wolf in a suit

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Let me know when he starts EMPLOYING blacks or creating vehicles of entrepreneurship for minorities...and I know this is much more difficult to do.

Entertainers still represent the vast majority of black wealth. I'm not impressed. No matter how much he wraps it up in "influencing the world" and shyt. Its just business-speak and coded language to try and reshape the dialogue.

this is a good post & more of this does need to be done...but still some of it is being done already
 

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Let me know when he starts EMPLOYING blacks or creating vehicles of entrepreneurship for minorities...and I know this is much more difficult to do.

Entertainers still represent the vast majority of black wealth. I'm not impressed. No matter how much he wraps it up in "influencing the world" and shyt. Its just business-speak and coded language to try and reshape the dialogue.

What's the point of ranting about a person when you haven't done much if any research on them? Seems like you just like to type. He's never employed black people? He's never created a vehicle of entrepreneurship for any minorities? Wha? hahahaha
 

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I kicked her ass, we back friends like Puffy and Steve Stoute

stoute still carryin moist emotions over that shyt
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What's the point of ranting about a person when you haven't done much if any research on them? Seems like you just like to type. He's never employed black people? He's never created a vehicle of entrepreneurship for any minorities? Wha? hahahaha

Wait...hold up.

Who said I didn't research dude? :what:

He's one of the biggest names IN music/celebrity entertainment. :snoop:

Where'd you get that from???

Look at his successes.

He takes black entertainers...gets brands...then gets brands to give those people money.

Thats it?

Word? Now you get to talk about "tanning" and other general buzzwords?

Dude's a bullshytter and big on large ideas that smart-dumbs can get inspired by.

He seemed to turn legit recently with his own firm, but he can only leverage "relationships" but so much in the future. Dude isn't a marketer...he's an opportunist.
 

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Stoute gets black entertainers to invest in black consumerism for products that don't benefit them.

And you don't see where this is fukked up?

Most of Stoute's achievements have been in marketing "black culture" back to black people as a means of selling shyt.

I mean damn...its not illegal, but why should I respect it inherently?

I respect the fact he's got an actual marketing firm NOW that branches out but him championing the G Unit sneaker is something i'll never understand.

I never understood why fans were so happy about rappers selling them shyt beyond music. I get that artists like it, obviously...but fans just can't WAIT to be marketed to...Its weird to me.

Your opinion on something you know very little about, as far as what is going on, means nothing first of all. Ditto for your respect towards him. You don't know what goes on with these deals. 50 cent made MILLIONS off those sneakers. Not to mention it improved the G-Unit brand. When you offer things outside of music G-Unit goes from a brand in music to a lifestyle brand.

Second of all, that doesn't make him a 'hack' the definition of a 'hack' is someone who doesn't know what they are doing. Steve Stoute is a very successful individual. You don't get to his position.by being a 'hack'

The ironic part being your favorite rapper Drake is doing this exact same thing but you don't say a damn thing about it :snoop:
 

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Your opinion on something you know very little about, as far as what is going on, means nothing first of all. Ditto for your respect towards him. You don't know what goes on with these deals. 50 cent made MILLIONS off those sneakers. Not to mention it improved the G-Unit brand. When you offer things outside of music G-Unit goes from a brand in music to a lifestyle brand.

Second of all, that doesn't make him a 'hack' the definition of a 'hack' is someone who doesn't know what they are doing. Steve Stoute is a very successful individual. You don't get to his position.by being a 'hack'

The ironic part being your favorite rapper Drake is doing this exact same thing but you don't say a damn thing about it :snoop:

Then you're misunderstanding what i'm saying.

"HACK" in the sense that he just profits off of black culture in a vapid sense.

"HACK" in the sense that he often speaks in circles to obfuscate his actual goal.

"HACK" in the sense that he derives inherent self worth from things he actually has little to contribute to.

Drake and 50 can sell as many T-shirts as they want...but dudes like Stoute just seem slimy to me.

For instance...he'll look at a dude like 2 Chainz and break down who his fanbase is...and then come back and say, push THIS product to your fans while you sit back and collect on them

Then he walks around saying how he helps the black community.

Nah dude...keep it 100. You just push products on people using celebrities to promote consumerism.

Thats what I hate about all this "industry" talk.

Stoute has no interest in the financial welfare of the black community. If he did, he'd find a way to make money outside of focusing using his celebrity friends to push products back on the same people who buy their records.

He's paid. No doubt...but so what?

Ya'll are quick to tout Jay and Diddy as successes...but they're STILL just overly paid employees.
 

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White execs LOVE this dude cause he uses words like "culture" and "tastemaker" and "lifestyle" etc.

He's their "IN" to black entertainers.

I get it.

SOMEONE seems to have to do it.

But hey...all he does it walk up in corporations and says, "I know someone who can push your shyt"
He's a DAMN good talker and salesman. Gotta give that to him :manny:
 

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Napoleon I understand what you're getting at but I don't have any type of problem with black folks making money. This is capitalism. If black folks are going to be consumers 'right now' then you might as well make other black folks rich doing it.

But in the in Stout does need to encourage ownership & employment of black folks no doubt about it.
 

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Napoleon I understand what you're getting at but I don't have any type of problem with black folks making money. This is capitalism. If black folks are going to be consumers 'right now' then you might as well make other black folks rich doing it.

But in the in Stout does need to encourage ownership & employment of black folks no doubt about it.
I'm glad Stoute is in these circles...but hearing him talk just gets to me man... :ld:
 

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I'm glad Curtis mentioned his parents are immigrants. It goes back to what I said before about the people who built this country being represented by those who didn't. What appears to be progress by the descendants of slaves really isn't. I wonder how much of his money stays in the hood and how much gets sent back to the old country?

Steve came off as a psychopath in the video but it's been proven that those types are some of the best businessman. I'm not for re-building the tower of babel but I can understand how those who want a new world order can see how hip hop has united the world would think this is a good thing.

I damn sure don't think people like Jay and Kanye are off limits from criticism and Nas damn sure did back peddle and sell out to Hennessy! Cool interview but he looks thirsty in trying to beef with 50 to promote his book/documentary and is he gay or what? He seems to sport pink alot.
 

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But still Curtis needs to sit his a$$ down though. He's apart of a system that is still segregated! Prince Hall Masonic lodges may as well say "colored" on the door. Don't preach to me about equality while you take a back seat in the masonic lodge.

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The problem with industry people is they have a need to feel they were part of something good despite insurmountable contradictory evidence.
Replace "industry people" with "Black masons" Curtis!
 
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