Is Scarface a top 10 movie?

[BXKingPin82]

this was actually one of the first "gangster" movies ive ever seen as a child.
has a weird place in my heart, but i dont even know if id put it in my top 10. and i dont even really have a top 10. i just know Back to the Future part 2 is in that shyt somewhere.

 

[BXKingPin82]

As soon as MTV started raided famous black people's cribs and saw that they all had Tony Montana on their walls, Scarface all of a sudden became the most hated movie of all time.

It's easily one of my favorite movies of all time.

lol they included some Hip Hop shyt in one of the re-released DVDs some years ago and even more people hopped off the Scarface bandwagon!

 

[LiveFromLondon]

Can never have a definitive top 10 because theres too many movies, genres and different tastes. But at the same Scarface is a top 10 gangster flick

 

[Alpha Male]

Not even a top 10 Pacino performance

Fam...

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

god no

 

[Monoblock]

Good god no. That movie is so damn horrible. A bunch of white guys pretending to be Cuban and Columbians with tans and awful accents.

 

[SuburbanPimp]

Nah.... It's definitely not top 10

 

[SirBiatch]

Imagine being a hip hop fan and thinking Scarface is a terrible movie. Where do they get you frauds from?

Scarface is arguably the most sampled/quoted movie in hip hop history. Classics upon classics have been made sampling the dialogue and score. A ton of references from Scarface are found in rap classics. fukking rappers are named after Scarface characters

So a movie that has a brilliant script, brilliant acting, brilliant score, brilliant direction and cinematography... is somehow terrible because it's not neat and clean like The Godfather? It's terrible because cac critics couldn't wrap their heads around it while nikkas thought it was stone-cold brilliant (rightfully so)? Only on the fukking Coli

For it’s time your compare it to The Godfather, goodfellas, Carlitos way, and mean streets. It’s not on that level. It perfectly encapsulates the 80s most definitely but Oliver Stone as a director wasn’t working on the level of Coppola or Scorsese. The acting is cheesy and over the top, it’s got the subtlety of a sledgehammer, it’s longer than it needs to be, and Pacino is the only interesting thing about it. He is great. He stands out. He’s the reason we still talk about it.

And as a remake it’s fine but it’s just not moving on the same level of the mob movies it likes to think it runs with

Brian De Palma directed Scarface. And De Palma is absolutely on the level of Coppola, Scorcese, Lucas, Spielberg, etc. They're all contemporaries.

Scarface is over-the-top and raw as fukk by design. It's a De Palma thing. Just like hip hop. It's in your face, brash, disorderly, paranoid, while being beautiful, authentic, surreal and mystical. Hip hop doesn't do subtle.

 

[OmegaK2099]

Its a classic..... for hypocrites

 

[Alpha Male]

Good god no. That movie is so damn horrible. A bunch of white guys pretending to be Cuban and Columbians with tans and awful accents.

that's what actors do, they pretend.

 

[MartyMcFly]

Imagine being a hip hop fan and thinking Scarface is a terrible movie. Where do they get you frauds from?

Scarface is arguably the most sampled/quoted movie in hip hop history. Classics upon classics have been made sampling the dialogue and score. A ton of references from Scarface are found in rap classics. fukking rappers are named after Scarface characters

So a movie that has a brilliant script, brilliant acting, brilliant score, brilliant direction and cinematography... is somehow terrible because it's not neat and clean like The Godfather? It's terrible because cac critics couldn't wrap their heads around it while nikkas thought it was stone-cold brilliant (rightfully so)? Only on the fukking Coli



Brian De Palma directed Scarface. And De Palma is absolutely on the level of Coppola, Scorcese, Lucas, Spielberg, etc. They're all contemporaries.

Scarface is over-the-top and raw as fukk by design. It's a De Palma thing. Just like hip hop. It's in your face, brash, disorderly, paranoid, while being beautiful, authentic, surreal and mystical. Hip hop doesn't do subtle.

My B son I misspoke. No one said de Palma isn’t on their level but he’s inconsistent for my money. He’s too in love with Hitchcock

Also you can be a hip hop fan and not think Scarface is a classic movie.

 

[SirBiatch]

My B son I misspoke. No one said de Palma isn’t on their level but he’s inconsistent for my money. He’s too in love with Hitchcock

Also you can be a hip hop fan and not think Scarface is a classic movie.

OK. But terrible?

 

[MartyMcFly]

OK. But terrible?

Also yeah. Breh my fav rappers being influenced by a thing doesn’t mean I have to love it. There are hip hop fans who don’t like Kung fu flicks. The shyt isn’t binary. Nothing is binary like that and it’s crazy to say otherwise. I can love Scarface the rapper but not Scarface the movie. I know how it’s influenced him and the effect it’s had on him and others but that doesn’t mean the shyt is untouchable.

 

[SirBiatch]

Also yeah. Breh my fav rappers being influenced by a thing doesn’t mean I have to love it.

Agreed. You don't have to love it. But not like it at all? And furthermore, think it's terrible? shyt makes no sense. If a rapper is heavily influenced by something, that influence is going to be all over his/her work. So how can you claim to love that rapper when you hate his/her major influences?

There are hip hop fans who don’t like Kung fu flicks.

Agreed. Though I find them suspect too, not gonna lie. Kung fu and hip hop have a marriage that goes way back.

I can excuse the kung fu thing. They have a less immediate influence on hip hop (especially 'gangsta rap') than Scarface. Scarface is something else entirely. The impact on Black and Hispanic inner-city youth was immediate once that movie came out.

The shyt isn’t binary. Nothing is binary like that and it’s crazy to say otherwise. I can love Scarface the rapper but not Scarface the movie. I know how it’s influenced him and the effect it’s had on him and others but that doesn’t mean the shyt is untouchable.

My post was aimed at people who think the movie is terrible. Nothing is untouchable, and Scarface is definitely not untouchable. But terrible? I stand by the fact that if you think Scarface is terrible, there's no way you're a Mobb Deep, Nas, Wu-tang, Jay-Z, etc fan like you claim to be. Scarface is all over their music.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Scarface isn’t even a top 10 movie of the 1980’s