Is Prime Roy Jones the most unbeatable boxer you've ever seen?

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He had terrible fundamentals, but he was maybe the greatest athelte to ever box so it didn't matter until he got older. If he fought another athletic fighter who had tight fundamentals, he would have been destroyed.

Montell Griffin didn't have the athleticism but he gave him issues because he was so skilled.
 
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The Hon. Stringer Bell said:
He had terrible fundamentals, but he was maybe the greatest athelte to ever box so it didn't matter until he got older. If he fought another athletic fighter who had tight fundamentals, he would have been destroyed.

Montell Griffin didn't have the athleticism but he gave him issues because he was so skilled.
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There is no one like that in boxing history. That's the problem. Thats why he's one of a kind except maybe Sugar Ray Robinson who had insane speed and explosive power.

As for Griffin? He played the first match and when he pressed in the rematch, Griffin was murdered. If he pressed anybody, it would be KO after KO. He didn't have to though. And the issues people think he gave him, he handled better than a Joe Louis, Ali, Floyd, Duran, Jack Johnson, Tyson,, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns dealt with in their prime.
 
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R=G said:
No...I don't like the Maywesther name being mentioned. Castillo basically outpointed him in his prime...Roy went rounds without getting touched. What he did to Reggie Johnson? Absolutely insane.
What you say about Mayweather..what I always have said, he held up better when they got in their mid 30s of course but Roy put weight on his body to win the heavyweight title and lost that weight in those mid 30s, he didn't hold up. Floyd never put on that kind of weight and lost it..so he had all of his abilities at 36 against a Canelo.
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that’s your opinion but I didn’t see that
 
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R=G said:
There is no one like that in boxing history. That's the problem. Thats why he's one of a kind except maybe Sugar Ray Robinson who had insane speed and explosive power.

As for Griffin? He played the first match and when he pressed in the rematch, Griffin was murdered. If he pressed anybody, it would be KO after KO. He didn't have to though. And the issues people think he gave him, he handled better than a Joe Louis, Ali, Floyd, Duran, Jack Johnson, Tyson,, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns dealt with in their prime.
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He took risks in the second fight coming out and throwing all left hooks. He missed a lot of them wildly and could easily have gotten hurt if Griffin wasn't nervous.
 
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R=G said:
Wasn't in his prime at that point..if him and Tarver were both 25, Tarver gets utterly decimated. A repeat of the Teslasco fight basically.
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How do you measure when he was past prime though. He looked like he was his old self right before Tarver landed on him. After that you could see he wasn't moving the same though
 
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R=G said:
Easily..he was heading towards 35. Prime is 27-33..and nobody was remotely a challenge in that time frame.
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You prolly right.

But at the same time the weight jump up and then down is what ruined him.

He found the sweet spot between weight to power / speed ratio before the jump. It wasn't there on the way back down.
 
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I have to say yes. I watched a lot of boxing but Jones is the first one whose career I really tracked. I thought it was normal for elite fighters to pitch complete shut outs on the regular. He wasn't just easily beating guys but it was rare for a long stretch for Jones to even lose rounds. I don't care what's said about the level of competition. A lot of guys he was 12-0'ing were solid professional boxers and not nearly as bad as they were painted out to be. I just wish he wasn't so risk adverse and stepped on the pedal more to go for knockouts to finish off more of his flawless performances. There aren't many boxers that could stand his power if they came in going for broke or willing to eat so many clean punches to really fight the fight that would be needed to beat him.
 
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