Is Prime Larry Johnson The Best Comparison For Zion Williamson

[NYC Rebel]

Zion’s strength is godly. Some of y’all dudes don’t get it. He is one of those country strong ass Carolina negros. Strong for no reason ass negros.

Did someone say Zion’s strength WASN’T godly?

You ever heard of a “foregone conclusion?” Why do I need to restate the obvious?

 

[malbaker86]

www.thecoli.com

Yea bruh....I love LJ, i REALLY do, have even made a thread on him a few years ago, but he's not in the same paragraph of athletic ability in comparison to Zion

 

[kdslittlebro]

I really don’t wanna be biased, prisoner of the moment, or call y’all nikkas because I know LJ was the shyt before injuries, but can somebody give me some footage that shows LJ being more athletic than Zion, especially considering Zion is probably 30+ lbs heavier? I can’t recall any footage I’ve seen matching up with this kinda shyt.

In particular that closeout on the corner 3. That’s one of the most athletic basketball plays I’ve ever seen, and I think it will still be forgotten to time

 

[Luke Cage]

Zion has a higher vert than all them nikkas

Zion-45 inch vert
LeBron-44 inch vert
VC-43 inch vert
MJ-42 inch vert

And I’d say in court sprints with the ball only LeBron would be faster

Zion has a 40 inch vert not a 45
In fact only one of the verticals you listed are correct. Lebron has a 40 as well
Mj has a 46
Vc has a 43
Or had i should say

 

[ISO]

Zion has a 40 inch vert not a 45
In fact only one of the verticals you listed are correct. Lebron has a 40 as well
Mj has a 46
Vc has a 43
Or had i should say

Your numbers are wrong my guy smh how you gonna quote me saying I'm wrong

From ESPN on LeBron

He's a 6-foot-8, 250-pound freak of stature. He would tower above NFL defensive backs and other receivers. Plus, he owns a 44-inch vertical leap, which would rank among the top 10 recorded at the NFL scouting combine.

From Sports Illustrated on LeBron

At the NBA predraft camp six years ago, James's vertical leap was measured at 44 inches. Given that he estimates he gets about a foot higher jumping off one leg, that means that with a running start he could probably leap over your armoire without even turning horizontal.

From Business Insider on Zion

The Spartanburg, South Carolina, native commanded the attention of basketball's most faithful even before his explosive 28-point, 7-rebound performance against the then-No. 2 Kentucky Wildcats to open the season. During the preseason, Williamson could be founddunking from the free throw line and stunning everyone with his truly incredible 45-inch vertical leap.

From New York Times on Zion

At 6 feet 7 inches and 285 pounds, he is not only Paul Bunyan-esque for the college ranks but also, the website FiveThirtyEight noted, heavier than all but one active N.B.A. player. Williamson, however, is hardly earthbound. His 45-inch vertical leap is the highest since Duke started measuring its players, providing the foundation for his explosive moves to the basket — and the reason at least one reporter spoke with a physicist to try to calculate the damage a force like Williamson can cause to those who get in his way.

And no Jordan did not have a 46 inch vertical. He could only hit that if he had a running start. I don't know why people think Jordan has a higher vertical than guys like LeBron and Zion who are only an inch or two taller and are constantly head at the rim level when they dunk. There was no combine back then so Air Jordan's vertical has been hyperbolized by legends and tall tales. MJ had around a 41-42 inch vertical.

From the University of North Carolina's athleticism testing in '83

DATA ANALYSIS:
Distance measurements were analyzed by comparison to a meter stick in =
view of the camera. Displacement measurements of reach (pelvis) involved =
measurement of vertical height to the tip of fingers 2 and 3 (pelvis) =
during a task minus vertical height to the tip of fingers 2 and 3 =
(pelvis) during bilateral flat-footed stance. Velocity measurements were =
analyzed by dividing vertical height distance traveled divided by time =
taken for the tasks. A VanGuard Motion Analyzer was used to analyze =
motion frame by frame.

RESULTS:=20
Maximum measurements:=20
Vertical reach while standing flat-footed 93.67 in.
Floor to pelvic crest while standing 49.00 in.
Vertical reach displacement during a jump from standing 35.93 in.
Vertical displacement of the pelvis during a jump from running 38.07 in.
Vertical velocity during a jump from running 701.00 o/sec.=20
Vertical reach displacement during a jump from running 45.76 in.
Vertical reach displacement during a 1 hand dunk 41.70 in.
Vertical reach displacement during a 2 hand dunk 40.93 in.

During the vertical reach from standing, push from the floor was with =
both feet. During the vertical reach during a jump from running, push =
from the floor was with one foot and momentum of the body, two upper =
limbs, and one lower limb was used to the maximum.=20

CONCLUSION / CLINICAL RELEVANCE: Maximum displacement for vertical reach =
was achieved with a jump from a running start, a 2 hand dunk, a 1 hand =
dunk, and a jump from standing, respectively. This is consistent with =
use of momentum of the body and limbs to assist with the vertical =
displacement. Michael Jordan=92s vertical jump ability during several =
tasks provides a standard with which athletic achievement by others can =
be compared.

Zion=45 inch vertical
LBJ=44 inch vertical
VC=43 inch vertical
MJ=42 inch vertical

 

[ISO]

Did someone say Zion’s strength WASN’T godly?

You ever heard of a “foregone conclusion?” Why do I need to restate the obvious?

So since you conceded Zion is a higher leaper you gonna say LJ is stronger and faster than Zion?

 

[get these nets]

Based on this clip, Zion is quicker, faster, and has a fukk-ton more ups than Larry. We haven't even seen Zion vs. actual NBA talent, so I'm not sure why you included your final sentence.

The post I replied to was about functional strength and coordination and that translating into the game of basketball. NYC mentioned freakish athleticism LJ demonstrated with 3/4 length chest pass to a teammate. I mentioned one of the few NBA players known to display such strength/coordination to pull that off..Wes Unseld.

To futher demonstrate the functional athleticism displayed by LJ...I showed a clip of him establishing post position and giving fits to two of the strongest players of his era....Oakley and Mason. giving them the same treatment he gave NCAA field of teams in era where even future lottery picks played four years.

I'm saying wait until we see what Zion does when matched up against NBA talent, before saying what kind of athleticism he has.

 

[Luke Cage]

Your numbers are wrong my guy smh how you gonna quote me saying I'm wrong

From ESPN on LeBron


From Sports Illustrated on LeBron



From Business Insider on Zion


From New York Times on Zion



And no Jordan did not have a 46 inch vertical. He could only hit that if he had a running start. I don't know why people think Jordan has a higher vertical than guys like LeBron and Zion who are only an inch or two taller and are constantly head at the rim level when they dunk. There was no combine back then so Air Jordan's vertical has been hyperbolized by legends and tall tales. MJ had around a 41-42 inch vertical.

From the University of North Carolina's athleticism testing in '83


Zion=45 inch vertical
LBJ=44 inch vertical
VC=43 inch vertical
MJ=42 inch vertical

Why are none of your sources nba?
Random sources will give random verts. Bleacher report says jordan has a 48. None of these third party numbers are correct.

 

[010101]

The post I replied to was about functional strength and coordination and that translating into the game of basketball. NYC mentioned freakish athleticism LJ demonstrated with 3/4 length chest pass to a teammate. I mentioned one of the few NBA players known to display such strength/coordination to pull that off..Wes Unseld.

To futher demonstrate the functional athleticism displayed by LJ...I showed a clip of him establishing post position and giving fits to two of the strongest players of his era....Oakley and Mason. giving them the same treatment he gave NCAA field of teams in era where even future lottery picks played four years.

I'm saying wait until we see what Zion does when matched up against NBA talent, before saying what kind of athleticism he has.

that would more be a matter of experience & skill on lj part

no question z is more athletic

but lj is gonna look different because he was way more developed as a player he had played way more hoops & logged more time

lj was a pro even after the athleticism got robbed by injuries z isn't at that point it's still out run out jump out athlete opposition

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[ISO]

Why are none of your sources nba?
Random sources will give random verts. Bleacher report says jordan has a 48. None of these third party numbers are correct.

You give nikkas all the evidence in the world and they still double down on being wrong

LeBron’s SI sources clearly said it came from a pre draft measurement. ESPN and SI are reputable sources.

Bleacher Report is not reputable because they had a period where average Joe’s wrote for them. You literally citing an article written by some nikka named Rich Fernandes from 2010 back when anyone could try out and write for B-R. The 48 inch vert number is hearsay MJ never had a draft combine. It’s a made up number that was spread through tall tales.

Mans said Bleacher Report

I literally posted a video of Zion doing the vertical test and his head is fully above the rim and hand is damn near top of the backboard.

I gave you the official measurements from a fukking study on MJ’s athleticism from NORTH CAROLINA that specifically places his vert at 41-42 inches.

 

[NYC Rebel]

So since you conceded Zion is a higher leaper you gonna say LJ is stronger and faster than Zion?

Who said that?

 

[Trot LaRoc]

His mid level is LJ
His ceiling is somewhere between Barkley and Griffin
His floor is better version of Rodney Rogers

 

[Remote]

Larry Johnson in his prime was really skilled.
I don't know that it's really smart to put these crazy expectations on young players. So few have actually lived up to the hype or surpassed it.

Shaq and Lebron come to mind.

To be honest, as a player I would be happy to get to a 2nd contract.

 

[Cereal_Bowl_Assassin]

I dont think cats get it with LJ. Dude was a unique force of nature

And zion isnt unique?!? lol

 

[shopthatwrecks]

i only seen him play one game. TO ME, he looks like a heavier Jamal Mashburn with slightly better leaping vertical.

• handles comparable
• post up games comparable

mashburn was underrated zion is not monster mash

zion= corliss williamson