Is positional value cacalytics stat geeks underminin of RB impact the biggest L in years given what Henry, Saquon, Jacobs doin?

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The CMC trade paying off for the Niners so well made it palatable for savvy FOs to reevaluate the position. It swung from over to undervalue and smart teams took advantage :ehh:
 

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Bengals is a good example. Trade Mixon and tag Higgins. Now they've no run game and Burrow has to win games on his arm.
 

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There's logic behind recognizing that you can find good runningbacks through the bargain bin (day 3 of the draft, UDFA) and that when building teams sometimes that's the pragmatic option.

The flaw that was exposed is when the market shifts so dramatically that great players are undervalued. I've referenced this plenty of times and I'll do it again : when mediocre WRs like Gabe Davis & Darnell Mooney, who are lucky to touch the ball 15 times in a month, make more than impact RBs who can touch the ball 15 times in a half, common sense has been lost. Smart GMs took advantage of a glaring market inefficiency.
 

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Saquon, Hebry and Jacobs are all on playoff teams/contenders already with top 10 or better level defenses, QBs and coaches and all those teams were 10 win plus teams last year to say nothing of the Ravens making it to the AFC championship.
 

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If you have an analytical model that says pay Daniel Jones over Saquon OR to let Jacobs leave then your model is broken and you need to start over. Football requires the eye test and context at all times. They tried to "NBA" or "MLB" the NFL by pretending like folks ain't know better and all of them are getting cooked.
 

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It's like when you tell people that Lions, Eagles, and Packers were good teams before they added those backs and the teams that previously had those backs on the roster sucked even with them, it blows their mind.

No proponent of using data in sports has ever said the running game was unimportant.
The Eagles were a good team? They lost every game down the stretch, got crushed in their playoff game, both of their coordinators got fired, and the coach almost got fired.
 

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The Eagles were a good team? They lost every game down the stretch, got crushed in their playoff game, both of their coordinators got fired, and the coach almost got fired.

They won 11 games, how exactly weren’t they a good team? Bad teams don’t win 11 games in the NFL, just doesn’t happen.
 

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They won 11 games, how exactly weren’t they a good team? Bad teams don’t win 11 games in the NFL, just doesn’t happen.
They had 10 wins at the end of November...and finished with 11 for the season.

They stopped getting a lot of lucky breaks. Anybody who watched them play could have told you that wasn't a good football team.
 

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You fakkits are going to be in the next thread laughing at the next washed 30+ year old running back :mjlol:
 

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When Roseman signed Saquon, he said that he believed that now RBs are undervalued thanks to so many teams perceiving them as disposable.

It's similar to a betting line moving so dramatically in one direction after a injury update that the other side starts gaining in betting value.
 
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