Is positional value cacalytics stat geeks underminin of RB impact the biggest L in years given what Henry, Saquon, Jacobs doin?

[DraymondT]

fukking stat geeks bruh this why most athletes don't respect or give a fukk what they talkin bout

 

[Bboystyle]

Yes. And only the smart teams didnt listen

 

[BaggerofTea]

Nerds have fukked up professional sports badly

 

[mastermind]

This been a trend the last decade.

 

[010101]

it's nothing complex

easy as fukk to figure out the more you put it in the air the more mistakes you invite

1+1 type shyte

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[HandyWithTheSteel]

Teams will have to reinvest in RBs now that QBs are trash.

 

[mozichrome]

Its great they having incredible season but Each one of them would be getting used up by their previous teams

Each of those 3 teams qb situations are not good meaning would they still put up the same numbers

 

[In The Zone '98]

Manipulating the market.

They can't pay every position.

 

[Dorian Breh]

i dont think analytics are inherently bad

i just think that the majority of the practitioners in the sports world lack the wisdom and perspective to apply the techniques

with PFF being the best example of how you can layer bullshyt on top of itself to obfuscate any information

 

[Trav]

i dont think analytics are inherently bad

i just think that the majority of the practitioners in the sports world lack the wisdom and perspective to apply the techniques

with PFF being the best example of how you can layer bullshyt on top of itself to obfuscate any information

Expound on the last part of you can.

 

[JLova]

Teams will have to reinvest in RBs now that QBs are trash.

Or maybe, a good running game actually helps the QB?

 

[Apprentice]

This been a trend the last decade.

This is different

These 3 were arguably 3 of the top 5 in the league

They all let ‘em walk, shyt crazy

 

[Apprentice]

Expound on the last part of you can.

PFF be making shyt up and it be regular ass dudes watchin film making judgements without any knowledge going on

What tf is a big time throw?

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

The lions were also criticized for drafting Jahmyr Gibbs at 12 last year:

Draft grades: National analysts give Lions low marks for Day 1 picks

The Detroit Lions posted some of the lowest grades after Day 1 of the 2023 NFL Draft.

www.prideofdetroit.com

PFF: “Below Average”

Gibbs is the second-ranked running back on the PFF big board, but he is also just the 34th-ranked prospect. Viewed as a potential late first-round pick, this is a big reach with the 12th overall pick. He can make an impact in the passing game, though, as he hauled in 103 passes for 1,215 receiving yards over the past three seasons.

CBS (Pete Prisco): D

Yes, he’s an air back. Yes, he can do a lot of things. But, again, why take him here when there is a guy like corner Christian Gonzalez on the board? He’s good but he’s a back. At least it wasn’t a top-10 pick.

The Athletic (Scott Dochterman): F

For three years, Detroit general manager Brad Holmes could do no wrong. In this case, he reached on the draft’s second running back. The No. 22 player on Dane Brugler’s big board, Gibbs was likely to be there at No. 18 when the Lions picked again. Considering Detroit ranked last in total defense and yards per play, it was an odd move. Even if the Lions stood pat at No. 6, they could have had Bijan Robinson.

The Ringer (Danny Kelly): C+

Well, this is certainly a surprise! Despite signing David Montgomery in free agency to pair with incumbent playmaker D’Andre Swift, the Lions add another running back. Gibbs brings rare juice as a runner and should help create explosive plays for Detroit, but I don’t love the value here—especially for an undersized runner who doesn’t project as a volume-heavy back. Gibbs will need to be a true difference-maker in the passing game to live up to this cost.

DraftKings Nation (Chet Gresham): C

I like this pick a little more than the Falcons taking Robinson with the No. 8 pick, but not by much. These teams need to look at how other teams win championships and it’s not by drafting running backs in the Top 12! But, Gibbs has tremendous talent and will be a walking fantasy pick.

SB Nation (JP Acosta): C-

Man...I like Gibbs as a back. His change of direction and speed is a very valuable addition to any offense. However, the Lions currently have De’Andre Swift and David Montgomery on the roster, and still have considerable holes on their defense, especially up front. This feels like a major reach.

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Jahmyr Gibbs - 973 yards, 10 TDs, lions best team in football, 11-1, Gibbs cookin

 

[Dorian Breh]

Expound on the last part of you can.

PFF is just a bunch of arbitrary qualitative judgment calls that they then aggregate into a number to make seem more official.

And despite this they do stuff like lower grades for defenders in coverage for not being targeted.

I don't know if its PFF or what, but all that "Success Rate", "Expected Points Added", "Actual vs. Expected Catch Rate". What the fukk is "expected".

In baseball a hitters performance is just a 1v1 against the pitcher, the strike zone creates a discreet limited space for the competition, and there are thousands of at bats per season. You may be able to derive averages.

But the context of everything in football is so much more fluid, and the sample size is so much smaller, that there is no real way to develop an average based expectation that means anything.