Is Obama telling us to pull ourselves up by the bootstraps?

[Blackking]

• Over 80% of the Bush Tax cuts made permanent
• Tried to leave troops in Iraq but was kicked out by Nouri al-Maliki
• Started illegal war in Libya which caused a failed state and breeding ground for ISIS
• Escalated the surveillance state (until he was busted by Snowden)
• Claimed the right to execute US Citizens overseas without a trial or due process
• Implemented Romney healthcare plan from the Heritage foundation (a conservative think tank)
• Expanded use of flying death robots (drones)
• No prosecution of Wall Street executives who crashed the economy
• Lied about renegotiating NAFTA and is trying to bully Democrats into larger trade agreement called the TPP
• Attempted to cut Social Security by proposing cuts to cost of living increases (chained CPI)
• Illegal executive orders to grant legal status to illegal immigrants, he now fights for gay rights after initially lying about support for "traditional marriage" (only after gay campaign bundlers threat to stop fundraising) and provided free birth control for women while lecturing MOREHOUSE men during their graduation ceremony on "responsibility" and "excuses."

AND

• 95% of economic recovery has gone to wealthiest 1%

This man told you he was a Republican

This is all true


But....

Honestly Obama has nothing to do with shyt.

.

 

[KOohbt]

I look around my hood and ain't shyt help us from obama so he can

all the numbers don't mean shyt with out me seeing it with my own eyes

 

[I_Got_Da_Burna]

I look around my hood and ain't shyt help us from obama so he can

all the numbers don't mean shyt with out me seeing it with my own eyes

it's because you're a dusty good for nothing

i'm eatin lovely out chea

 

[KOohbt]

it's because you're a dusty good for nothing

i'm eatin lovely out chea

get lost troll

 

[AJaRuleStan]

OP, last time I compared Blacks with other minorities like Asians Americans(I was trying to prove a point about non-whites and education in america) on the root I just got insulted and muuh white supremacy responses. Point is, don't expect to see a lot of dialogue that actually contains substance regarding a topic were your comparing blacks to other minorities here, it's taboo!

Okay, now, imo(ignoring gays) if the stats are true that Latino Americans are in a better state than blacks in terms of success in "education" and "employment" than my assumption for this is most likely due to culture and population-size difference between the two groups.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

My brothers keeper is bullshyt. None of that money is going to black people, and Obama knows it. Part of the requirements to get the money is your organization has to have offices in at least 45 states. That excludes damn near every "black" organization out there.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/pol..._blocked_by_new_my_brother_s_keeper_rule.html

i didn't even know that

 

[↓R↑LYB]

OP, last time I compared Blacks with other minorities like Asians Americans(I was trying to prove a point about non-whites and education in america) on the root I just got insulted and muuh white supremacy responses. Point is, don't expect to to see a lot of dialogue that actually contains substance regarding a topic were your comparing blacks to other minorities here, it's taboo!

Okay, now, imo(ignoring gays) if the stats are true that Latino Americans are in a better state than blacks in terms of success in "education" and "employment" than my assumption for this is most likely due to culture and population-size difference between the two groups.

The bolded is why you get insulted. There has been report after report that proves the condition of black America is directly related to systematic racism and oppression as a matter of public policy. Saying it's an issue of culture and ignoring these racist policies places the blame on black Americans that have been victims of these practices.

 

[Red Shield]

My brothers keeper is bullshyt. None of that money is going to black people, and Obama knows it. Part of the requirements to get the money is your organization has to have offices in at least 45 states. That excludes damn near every "black" organization out there.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/pol..._blocked_by_new_my_brother_s_keeper_rule.html

Heard about that lol

Stop expecting help from the govt... because we will not be getting any.

 

[AJaRuleStan]

The bolded is why you get insulted. There has been report after report that proves the condition of black America is directly related to systematic racism and oppression as a matter of public policy. Saying it's an issue of culture and ignoring these racist policies places the blame on black Americans that have been victims of these practices.

First: no one should be insulted because they hold a different opinion than someone else. Tbh; the root should encourage ppl to have different opinions so when a discussion comes up you can have different perspectives explained, discussed, and debated to reach new conclusions.

Secondly, No, I took the same reasoning you are using into consideration, but it didn't make much sense in my head because if being non-white was the variable that determined the condition for blacks today, in america, than it should also hold true for Latinos and Asian since they share that exact same property of being non-white. Yet, OP makes a point stating Latinos are prospering ahead of blacks, and assuming his information is correct, key word, assuming, than one must conclude that being a non-white group does not necessarily determine/control your group's state in america.

Here, maybe this will make my point clearer.

Group: Blacks{
Non-White: true;
Unemployment: 14.4%;
Median-Family income: 33k;
Bachelor Degree or more: 18%;
}

Group: Latinos{
Non-White: true;
Unemployment: 8.8;
Median-Family income: 40k;
Bachelor Degree or more: 13%;
}

Group: Asians{
Non-White: true;
Unemployment: 4.4;
Median-Family income: 60k;
Bachelor Degree or more: 49%
}
Src

They all share the same value for the Non-white attribute, yet every other variable is different. There really is only two things one logical person can conclude imo, atm.

A) Whites are particular racist towards blacks, thus, being non-white only effects blacks, and is the reason for the differences within the minority groups in terms of the proprieties that I laid out above.

or

B) racism has nothing to do with it, today, and every group has the ability to change/fix their groups state in america, thus the differences are explained by other variables.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Heard about that lol

Stop expecting help from the govt... because we will not be getting any.

I already know the government ain't gonna do shyt for us. And to keep it 100, I don't expect black people in positions of power or influence to do anything either. The only place black people are gonna get help is from ordinary, every day black men and women who organize on a community/grass roots level.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

First: no one should be insulted because they hold a different opinion than someone else. Tbh; the root should encourage ppl to have different opinions so when a discussion comes up you can have different perspectives explained, discussed, and debated to reach new conclusions.

If you on here talking that bullshyt hell yeah you supposed to get insulted. And negged into oblivion too

Secondly, No, I took the same reasoning you are using into consideration, but it didn't make much sense in my head because if being non-white was the variable that determined the condition for blacks today, in america, than it should also hold true for Latinos and Asian since they share that exact same property of being non-white. Yet, OP makes a point stating Latinos are prospering ahead of blacks, and assuming his information is correct, key word, assuming, than one must conclude that being a non-white group does not necessarily determine/control your group's state in america.

Here, maybe this will make my point clearer.

Group: Blacks{
Non-White: true;
Unemployment: 14.4%;
Median-Family income: 33k;
Bachelor Degree or more: 18%;
}

Group: Latinos{
Non-White: true;
Unemployment: 8.8;
Median-Family income: 40k;
Bachelor Degree or more: 13%;
}

Group: Asians{
Non-White: true;
Unemployment: 4.4;
Median-Family income: 60k;
Bachelor Degree or more: 49%
}

This is quite possibly the biggest crock of shyt I've ever read in my life

They all share the same value for the Non-white attribute, yet every other variable is different. There really is only two things one logical person can conclude imo, atm.

A) Whites are only racist towards blacks, thus, being non-white only effects blacks, and is the reason for the differences within the minority groups in terms of the proprieties that I laid out above.

or

B) racism has nothing to do with it, today, and every group has the ability to change/fix their groups state in america, thus explaining the differences.

You're either a cac or just a fukkin moron. Minorities don't share the same experience dummy. Hispanics are discriminated differently than blacks, and Arabs are discriminated differently than Asians. There's no way you took racism into consideration because I'm sure you're absolutely clueless about what happened to black people in the past, and what's happening to black people right now.

 

[definition]

here's an indisputable fact: the gay and latino communities have prospered more than ever in the past 7 years

the black community is doing the worst it has in decades, are we not showing enough initiative? are we not adequately or clearly stating what it is we want collectively as a whole?

what do you all say?

To begin, I'm a white dude ... so, if that causes you to skip my post, I understand.

Have you considered this - the president is black, and was supposed to make things better for both black people and for race relations as a whole. So, since 48-ish% of people are at least somewhat interested in making sure the democratic (black) president fails ... would it stand to reason that they'll at least consider trying to make things worse for BOTH black America and race relations as a whole?

I'm not saying obama has done a perfect job (no POTUS ever comes close to meeting his supporters' expectations -- unless he has dumb supporters or apologists), but I think his opposition took calculated steps to make it seem like Obama failed at two of his main goals.

 

[Piff Perkins]

My brothers keeper is bullshyt. None of that money is going to black people, and Obama knows it. Part of the requirements to get the money is your organization has to have offices in at least 45 states. That excludes damn near every "black" organization out there.

http://www.theroot.com/articles/pol..._blocked_by_new_my_brother_s_keeper_rule.html

I understand having a restriction like that, but the office amount demand is too much. Having a restriction makes sense to avoid connections to shadier groups, I get that...but making it 5 or 10 makes FAR more sense than 45...

I'd imagine the Clinton Foundation fiasco has Obama's team on edge trying to ensure they don't end up on that Summerjam Screen. Side note: I remember about 8 years ago having a meeting with an Obama bundler dude in finance. It was a work related meeting but at the end he started laying out what he "expected" Obama's next decade to look like. He was going on about how he'd get elected, win re-election easily, and start an organization or charity focused on urban issues. He also said they were looking into how to do it legally as possible because if there's anything cacs love it's shutting down black charities and/or movements for "corruption." Dude literally said "Obama won't be able to get away with the shyt the Clintons are doing with their Foundation."

 

[AJaRuleStan]

This is quite possibly the biggest crock of shyt I've ever read in my life

What's a croc of shyt? My facts or my reasoning? If its my reasoning than how is it a croc of shyt?

If you believe in white supremacy(belief that white people are superior to all other races aka non-whites NOT JUST BLACK PEOPLE) is the foundation that creates racism which creates the institutional barriers that prevents blacks from drastically changing their "state" in america today(last decade or so)

than

the same must be true for Latinos and Asians because they are non-whites too.

I really don't see a flaw in this logic? If you state X should occur to blacks because they aren't white than It most hold true for all non-white groups, unless, like I said in my last post, you side with conclusion A. Also, respond with some substance or don't at all. I am not interested in reading ad-hominems.

You're either a cac or just a fukkin moron. Minorities don't share the same experience dummy.

Assuming your not using the word "experience" as code for "history", your basically proving my point. Minorities are non-whites, yet, today, they have varying experiences which lead to them have varying "states". This variety means that if a group falls under none-whites they aren't destine to be in a fix'd state which contradictions the notion that white supremacy is this un-passable barrier that locks non-white group into a static state.

Hispanics are discriminated differently than blacks, and Arabs are discriminated differently than Asians. There's no way you took racism into consideration

Did you even read my post? I practically implied a similar conclusion.

A) Whites are particular racist towards blacks, thus, being non-white really only effects blacks, and is the reason for the differences within the minority groups in terms of the proprieties that I laid out above.

See, I did consider that being non-white may not effect Asians as it does Blacks. While I don't believe that theory because it doesn't make sense in the context of "today", I did fukking acknowledge it as a valid conclusion, so don't tell me I didn't.

I'm sure you're absolutely clueless about what happened to black people in the past, and what's happening to black people right now.

And I'm sure you made that assumption based on the irrational logic that I stated something you don't agree with.

 

[Mowgli]

This nikka cosigned bruce jenner, hes not serious.