Is nas versatile enough to really be a GOAT rapper?

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People have different taste over seas.
Lol @ fly over states.
Florida, Texas, GA, California are fly over states? :heh:

Not Cali but then again I know he sold out his LA shows for Life is Good (pre Lauryn tour too).

the rest have really just bump their own regional music cause its big enough now. But even in those places you can find a few Nas fans and fans more East Coast Hip Hop in smaller doses. Just enough for them red states :smugbiden:
 

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The OP is on that stuff.


Nas is very versatile. Small world? -Story telling No idea's original - Dropping knowledge on how things are really just the same thing over and over. 2nd childhood, going through a crisis becoming an adult . I could go on and on youre bugging
 

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The OP is on that stuff.


Nas is very versatile. Small world? -Story telling No idea's original - Dropping knowledge on how things are really just the same thing over and over. 2nd childhood, going through a crisis becoming an adult . I could go on and on youre bugging

Thats not really versatile bruh.

Going from Bomb First, To keep ya head up to I get Around is versatile.

Not that shyt Nas does
 

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From now on when you talk to @BrothaZay, let me know what's your ethnicity first, so I can know whether or not to ignore you.
 
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The past 5 years he's done extensive touring overseas which has probably helped his profile. He never did that pre-2003. Already in the past 8 months he's toured Europe 4 times and he's headling a stage at Glastonbury (Not the mainstage but the Village Stage is a key one).

So the argument that he only does a few shows doesnt work, he's actually in demand and thats why he keeps coming back.

Part of the reason he toured with Damian for 2 years was because they kept getting festivals and venues overseas wanting. Same deal even with Untitled and HHID. He was doing too many shows to a fault. Part of it is because he has Rock the Bells but also to his credit, he has been trying to build an overseas profile.

I dont think 50 is as big as he once was overseas though, like I dont hear him doing festivals like he once did. Now part of that is that he hasnt released an album in years now but its not like he's coming to do shows off hand anyway. He went from doing Wembley Arena when Get Rich or Die Trying to doing the HMV Apollo (think Best Buy Theater in NYC) when Curtis came out (Heck 50's last album sold about the same as Untitled and lets compare the commercial prospect and gaps of both albums)

Its interesting you bring up Jessie J and Rita Ora because I think for some people in the US they are big enough even without the album sales or a US distirbution to relase an album. That's part of the argument about how its hard to define whats popular anymore. They stay on the radio and can eat off or like rappers can tour because they are demand.
Its probably better for them to still be big overseas seeing as most popular music in the US seems to be imported back to the states at all time now (Dubstep, Indie rock, UK soul etc)

I havent seen the numbers for Life is Good worldwide but if hes gone gold overseas thats a good thing (Heck even 400k is a good look in 2013:blessed:) because usually the bulk numbers for worldwide album sales are from the US (btw try even finding a record store overseas in 2013:to: its fukked up whats happened in the UK after HMV closes they wont be any and thats considered a big music market)

Jay and Kanye are Jay and Kanye though. No one's arguing they're not bigger. They culturally huge, frankly Im surprised they havent sold 5 million and they would be diamond in the everyone eats era. But this is more about how Nas has been able to still be in demand and relevant without needing mainstream US outlets (Radio or big sales). You gotta admit, its impressive for Nas to still be a headliner in 2013.

Like I wish Chuck D, BDK, Rakim had preserved this kind of legacy. Wu-Tang SHOULD be doing this too, Snoop kinda does. So I think for Nas still get big shows like he does overseas and still being on best of lists still is pretty impressive.:ehh:

You make some really good points... :leon:

Well look at it like this... 50 Cent put out a song that never went Top 40 in the U.S. but debuted in the Top 5 in the U.K. I agree that he may not sell out festivals overseas but their taste in artists & music is extremely different then the U.S.

The Rita Ora/Jessie J was just to highlight that the U.S. audience is much harder to satisfy then other country's markets. Nobody really knows or cares who they are here but they're International Superstars everywhere else. They could start a Tour together over here & sell only enough tickets to MAYBE sell out a "House Of Blues" type of Venue & even that would be pushing it whereas overseas Jessie J is selling out the same arenas that Katy Perry is... :leon:

I'm not denying that Nas's career at this point isn't impressive especially for a guy who has been in the game as long as him & is still selling Gold in 2013 without a Billboard Hit. Nas is a great artist. It's just hard to find a specific criteria when measuring who an artist appeals to because even Dipset with their Gangsta-Only style of music were doing successful tours in London & the U.K.

I have a friend who has toured in Russia, Germany & Japan & couldn't sellout a Starbucks over here. Just a very different perception of U.S. artists overseas it's really mind-blowing. Hell, the biggest artist in Japan doesn't even exist... :ohhh:

Also props for an intelligent & well thought out reply... :obama: I was expecting a typical Coli "fukk you & jay-z, nas is the GOAT, music is garbage now, fans are retarded" type of response... it's rare that posters have real debates as opposed to replies of :umad: & :childplease:
 

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He has 3 double platinum albums and everything except for LIG has gone at least gold.

No, he's never been the most popular mainstream artist, but he's had his share of successful singles.

He is the most complete hip-hop artist so far.
 

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He has 3 double platinum albums and everything except for LIG has gone at least gold.

No, he's never been the most popular mainstream artist, but he's had his share of successful singles.

He is the most complete hip-hop artist so far.

:pachaha:
 
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