Is Music dying? Shares of UMG tank after deceleration of streaming revenue....

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Don't care. Gen X was conditioned not to care about record execs, A&Rs, or any of the middle men between the artist and the consumer.

Thread is comedy though because if you dig up old threads on streaming cats were acting like straight up mascots. Trying to guilt trip us into using streaming services.

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isn't everything on the market down right now anyway? shyt will adjust over time, i'm sure.
 

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Budgets have gone down for labels to spend on these mid ass artists, the talent is out there for sure but unless you get on these playlists on these major DSPs you shyt outta luck. Execs sign these trash artists but since they lack the actual talent they have to do PR stunts on social media to keep their name in the headlines. Also shyt is no niche nowadays there's a pocket for everyone with different tastes. Also the TikTok-ification of it all is too boom or bust, people's attention spans now are the size of a gnat, but that seems to be the way to break these days. This is all my opinion watching from the sidelines, I know it's cats on here who manage artists so maybe they could give a better explanation.
 

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Like various industries, it's a sign of the times. Progression comes with dire consequences. Maybe the old ways of doing things like fukking over countless artists, promoting the WOAT type of music, and destroying the platform for various genres is finally coming back like the ghost of Christmas past.

Maybe, this time artists finally see the threat and let these CEOs yoke themselves.

Maybe, it's time to go back to the basics and make music fun and passionate again.

Music isn't dying, if that was the case...Kenny would not have done what he did a month or so ago, and brought together rivals from various hoods, different personas, and unifying all forms of races to put a certified Canadian pedophile :wow:


That alone proves that it's not the music, but it's the old ways of doing things to harm such a beautiful gift on earth.
 

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It’s cooked especially with A.I on the rise artists won’t even need to lay the vocals anymore. If the artists don’t won’t to drop music no worries we will fine tune your voice and release an A.I album. shyt has been getting better overtime and I know Eminem was probably using that shyt for the death of slim shady album.
 

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Writing been on the wall for years. Once talent was no longer a requirement and you could access whatever you want for free it was a wrap. Music business alway been shady but at least you had to have talent and development and people had to invest in artists. Now its a free for all. Music execs gotta take their blame for taking shortcuts and putting out BS and doing artists dirty but the consumers gotta take our blame for allowing it. Why find and develop talented artists if we are gonna consume homogenized BS?
 

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Like various industries, it's a sign of the times. Progression comes with dire consequences. Maybe the old ways of doing things like fukking over countless artists, promoting the WOAT type of music, and destroying the platform for various genres is finally coming back like the ghost of Christmas past.

Maybe, this time artists finally see the threat and let these CEOs yoke themselves.

Maybe, it's time to go back to the basics and make music fun and passionate again.

Music isn't dying, if that was the case...Kenny would not have done what he did a month or so ago, and brought together rivals from various hoods, different personas, and unifying all forms of races to put a certified Canadian pedophile :wow:


That alone proves that it's not the music, but it's the old ways of doing things to harm such a beautiful gift on earth.
that really proves that the culture & the music is a slave to big business

because yes k. wrecked aubrey as far as his cultural respectability

but business wise drake still the biggest machine connected to the genre

that amazing cultural moment watching k. embarrass the boy will be remembered in history

but what does it mean to the bank¿

i can even see it course correcting aubrey in a way pushing him away from hip-hop/rap where he's amateur hour compared to his simpgawd r&b melodic bag where his pop success lives

singing ass nikkas will always make more money & be better buisness k. may have just given drake the slap he needed to take him back home to the side of music he is meant to occupy

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that really proves that the culture & the music is a slave to big business

because yes k. wrecked aubrey as far as his cultural respectability

but business wise drake still the biggest machine connected to the genre

that amazing cultural moment watching k. embarrass the boy will be remembered in history

but what does it mean to the bank¿

i can even see it course correcting aubrey in a way pushing him away from hip-hop/rap where he's amateur hour compared to his simpgawd r&b melodic bag where his pop success lives

singing ass nikkas will always make more money & be better buisness k. may have just given drake the slap he needed to take him back home to the side of music he is meant to occupy

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Yeah the grim reality that being soulless sells, versus having integrity and honor. That's the epitome of life itself.
 

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The internet ruined music. Everything is WAY too fragmented.

As a flabby head, when I was in school, even if you didn't listen to everything, you knew who the major artists and songs were. There were countdown shows on MTV, BET and every radio station. That kept everyone informed and developed a culture where everybody knew the trends and major/new artists. It tied everyone together.

None of that exists now. There is no TLR, Rap City, 106 & Park, Yo! MTV Raps, etc. People just have their own Spotify playlists and keep to themselves. It is nearly impossible for an artist to break out in a major way now.
Agreed. And people that others think are superstars aren’t really superstars lol.

Some are just famous on social media but their music isn’t widely known.

It’s nasty out here.
 

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Old school industries where "the machine" was the middle person are going to have to move with the times now.
 

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I lived my early twenties seeking to write a viral breakout hit

I Put That Brick in Your Face

Slim Jesus


Not a high bar

But realistically them songs probably resulted in less than a dozen bookings before that well dried up

Where's Slim Jesus now, wouldn't surprise me to find him working at a Foot Locker

That's not to hate or disparage what they did but for years there is this idea that you don't need the major labels anyone can be heard all you need is like one big song or something you know and you have a video for that and it goes viral then you're all the sudden on the same level as major label acts - really major label acts are a handful, and then there are a bunch of artists in development in the artist and repertoire department, other businesses would call this research and development a lot of this never makes it off The cutting room floor but it accounts for a lot of the spending and budget that amount for losses in the industry but yet each one of those losses represents a plethora of payments to industry veterans who work on that project. A lot of the business is built on creative accounting and that's where the money really is - there are franchise and marquee brands. Eminem, Adele, beyoncé, Taylor Swift, drake. Eminem is breaking records in streaming and just had his lowest selling debut album and yet that's one of the highest selling albums of the year so yeah there's a lot less money to go around and the industry and the revenue from it have been hijacked by the streaming entities for operating as a data harvesting device. The goal now is to know your habits when you listen to music what makes you listen to certain songs where you are when you listen to certain songs so that they can sell you a McDonald's ad at the perfect time so they can sell you a gym membership ad at the perfect time so they can sell you a car insurance at the perfect time

Can you post your music?
 

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Bu but. The coli stayed posting in threads acting like the artist that they like getting 50k 1st week streams is a major win! :deadrose:


Then will be in another thread about an artist they don't like and clown them for getting ONLY 50k.:dead:



Streaming is fukking nothing.


Nobody is making major money from this shyt.
 

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Can you post your music?


It ranges from

Which is really an Americanized Gangnam Style in regard to song structure

to me selling out before anyone bought in, writing love songs






But also


And cameo appearances in this video



Left everything back east and went to the west coast right after high school
Brief stint with "the family" on Haight Street. Assimilated into West Oakland

Debut album 12 albums no features 7 music videos all self-financed, 1 producer in Italy, audio engineer in Germany. Never went to the studio with anyone else, never had a free studio session. 3 music videos filmed in Compton
 
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