He'll be a top 2 miami heat player all time
Is LeBron Top 2 All-Time If The Heat Win 74+ Games & The Title?
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Never won a ring as the best player, that was Kareem's team
That's why I said Lead
That's why I said Lead
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
When you can still say you're the "Only player ever" do pull off a certain feat, you're going to be above most.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
See...all of these corny ass bars.
So what he wasn't the leader on that squad. He was one of the greatest individual players the league has ever seen.
Same thing with Tiny Archibald..
Dude lead the league in scoring and asissts..
That is some Joe Dimaggio, unbreakable record type shyt..
For me it's all about how he plays, rather than what the team accomplishes. IF he plays like he did in the 2011 Finals and wins 6 more rings while winning 70 games each year does that really prove anything? Conversely if he plays lack he did in last years playoffs for the next 10 years straight I don't see how you can deny him no matter how many rings he wins in that time.
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MANDE KANG
Oscar is routinely put in old folks top 5.
So is Wilt.
Point is, the ring argument has nothing to do with being an individually great player.
Oscar isn't even top 10 by most people.
Jesus Is Lord
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You know the reason. He finally won a ring. I never seen a player enter the mythical top 5-10 by winning ONE ring after failing TWO times in a row.......in the middle of his career.
He's the most talented player I have ever seen, rankings are all accomplishments though.
I have him around 11-12.
I have him around 11-12.
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
It has something to do with people not having the energy to debate that he was top 10 even minus the ring.
I felt he was top ten even if he didn't win one, but why argue and have to cut through the "he doesn't have a ring" garbage lazily thrown by people who put way too much stock into it?
Jesus Is Lord
Give Thanks, Repent, and Forgive
Lebron is top 10 in my eyes and he can only go higher, but when you're having a serious debate with certain people or group the ring thing always comes up. I'm telling you this "ring thing" started back with Magic and Bird. I remember the days where being nice is meant that you were nice, nothing else. Rings are a team thing but up here it's not, so we adapt with our crowd
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