Is Kyrie's Success in Boston an Indictment on LeBron?

[McPiff]

Kyrie doing this with a rookie starting and a second year guy starting. Only Starter from the last year celtics team is Horford who people was clowning before this season. Lost Avery Bradley in free agency and the second best player on the team got hurt the very first game. Everybody just shut the fukk up about Kyrie, give dude his props and keep it moving.

If Bron was playing with a rookie and a second year guy with his his second best player hurt. nikkas would be all Bron need more help bullshyt.

Dont get me wrong Jaylen and Tatum are both playing with tremendous confidence and are showing that they are gonna be dudes to take notice of in the NBA. They both are balling on offense and defense. Also AL Horford has been playing tremendously better than last year. Him and Kyrie got great chem already. Him and Kyrie PnR


Dudes stayed bringing up Kyrie's lack of success before Bron like dude wasnt in his first 3 years in the NBA surrounded by nobody. Not to mention his injuries. There is a reason Bron went back to Cleveland. Best believe if Kyrie wasnt there he wouldnt have went back.

you mean the same lebron that led a team to the finals with mo williams as the second best player? with sasha pavlovic playing in the starting 5 ?


why do you fukk boys feel the need to create false narrative just to shyt on bron and/or big up kyrie?

Cant y'all fakkits just acknowledge that kyrie is having an amazing first month as the leader of his team and keep it moving?

Y'all that desperate ?

 

[FcKuPaYmE]

you mean the same lebron that led a team to the finals with mo williams as the second best player? with sasha pavlovic playing in the starting 5 ?


why do you fukk boys feel the need to create false narrative just to shyt on bron and/or big up kyrie?

Cant y'all fakkits just acknowledge that kyrie is having an amazing first month as the leader of his team and keep it moving?

Y'all that desperate ?

If you had a lick of sense you would see I was talking about his stans with that statement not him dumbass.

 

[Swagnificent]

LeBron is a teammate killer, its been known. any player that plays next to lebron will not get their stats.


LeBron is so unselfish and passes so damn much, yet his all-star teammates always drop off in performance,

This. LeBron feeds off the ignorance of fans and our stat obsessed society. He knows that if you average some pretty stats that it will absolve you of blame among the ignorant and have everyone blaming your teammates for your failures.

As you said, LeBron plays a very selfish brand of basketball where its all about him putting up his stats. In particular to assist stats that he cares so much about it. This leads to his teams never having proper ball movement. This depresses the stats of his teammates.

LeBron ball dominance is the biggest reason his teammates always under peform. Its not because they suddenly get worse which is what Bron stans want us to believe.

 

[Swagnificent]

Didn't the Celtics make the ECF last year while featuring a 5'8" castoff from the Kings?


Kyrie is doing a better job of playing within an offensive system, but we're 10 games into the first Kyrie-led winning season ever and he's surrounded by talent with a great coach, so give it a bit of time before making ridiculous declarations.

Boston's players that came over from last year - Horford, Smart, Rozier - are playing the same as they did before. Besides Kyrie, the main additions this year are that Brown has made a big sophomore leap and Tatum looks special. So we're basically saying, "Kyrie-Tatum-Brown is approximately as good as IT-Bradley-Crowder." What exactly does that prove about Kyrie that we didn't already know?

Why would Kyrie playing within a system be an indictment on Lebron and not on Kyrie, or all the coaches Kyrie had before Stevens? Didn't Kyrie credit Stevens for teaching him how to play differently?

Or was developing Kyrie into a team player supposed to be Papa Lebron's responsibility too?

Its gonna be hilarious to see the excuses you come up with when Kyrie is in the finals this year and LeBron is sitting at home watching like the rest of us.

What then Nick Wright Jr.?

 

[Swagnificent]

nikkas only care about kyrie to spite bron/ his stans.

And what's wrong with that?

LeBron fans have been living off a lie the last 14 years. That he's better than the likes of Kobe and Jordan when in reality he's not.

Kyrie is gonna be the key to take down this delusion when he makes it to the finals without LeBron this year and LeBron is sitting at home watching the finals like the rest of us.

 

[Swagnificent]

The best overreactions I've seen so far are the ones claiming that Kyrie's 21-3-5 on 43% shooting is an "MVP-caliber season"

Best player on the best team in the league while also playing the best defense in the league. I would call that MVP worthy.

Or do defensive analytics no longer matter to you?

 

[Swagnificent]

First off, Kyrie had the ball in his hands for more minutes last year than Lebron did yet had far fewer assists than Bron. It was a great offense, but when the offense stalled it stalled on Kyrie's isolation plays when he wasn't even looking to pass, not on Lebron who was clearly always keeping an eye out to keep teammates involved.

Second off, what you call "Bron Ball" produced one of the greatest offensive efficiencies in basketball history.


But because a great coach convinced Kyrie to finally give up the ball and not run so much isolation this year, which means that the Celtics have an offense that's humming even though Kyrie has fewer points and fewer assists with worse efficiency, that proves that Bron Ball and not Kyrie's selfishness was the problem?



Ya'all will try to use literally anything to take down Lebron.

All this post tells me is you would rather have LeBron put up pretty stats like he's doing now and be the 12th seed in the East RATHER THAN putting up okay stats like Kyrie is doing right now and being the best team in basketball.

You Bron stans are pathetic. You treat basketball like its fantasy football.

Kyrie Irving >>> Lebron this year Why? Because he's leading the best team in basketball while LeBron is fighting to get out of the lottery. Stats be damned.

 

[Swagnificent]

Boxscore dont lie you dumbass hoe, its why you hate it.

21 points 43% from the field 10 games in November FOH

Kyrie is also in the top 5-10 in the league in terms of steals per game, defensive win shares, and defensive rating. He's also leading the #1 team in the league in defensive efficiency. But you just gon ignore all that as well as the fact he's leading the best team in the NBA.

And FTR its now 22ppg on 46% shooting for Kyrie on the season after last night's game.

Kyrie Irving is playing better basketball than LeBron right now. Its obvious to anyone who watches the game and understands that defense matters. You Bron stans can't point to nothing but LeBron's pathetic stat padding.

 

[Premeditated]

nikkas only care about kyrie to spite bron/ his stans.

or we just find Kyrie's games more eye pleasing....

 

[Damnshow]

last year thomas was leading bunch of role players + al horford to the 1st seed in the east, nobody called thomas a better player than bron, in fact quite a few called kyrie a better player than thomas as well

this gon be 4th year in a row of same shyt talking till the playoffs come around and juelz sanata gifs start popping where they go from "he wont make it to finals" to "well he's in eastern conference he's supposed to make the finals"

it was bulls, pacers, hawks, now it's celtics

 

[QuintessentialBM]

It's early.

This is all that really needs to be said.... If Kyrie regains his Cav form(which I'm sure he will)then the Celtics are a championship calibre team.

Cue the Juelz Santana gif for LeBron stans....

for the record, I'm not a fan of either player.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

Didn't the Celtics make the ECF last year while featuring a 5'8" castoff from the Kings?


Kyrie is doing a better job of playing within an offensive system, but we're 10 games into the first Kyrie-led winning season ever and he's surrounded by talent with a great coach, so give it a bit of time before making ridiculous declarations.

Boston's players that came over from last year - Horford, Smart, Rozier - are playing the same as they did before. Besides Kyrie, the main additions this year are that Brown has made a big sophomore leap and Tatum looks special. So we're basically saying, "Kyrie-Tatum-Brown is approximately as good as IT-Bradley-Crowder." What exactly does that prove about Kyrie that we didn't already know?

Why would Kyrie playing within a system be an indictment on Lebron and not on Kyrie, or all the coaches Kyrie had before Stevens? Didn't Kyrie credit Stevens for teaching him how to play differently?

Or was developing Kyrie into a team player supposed to be Papa Lebron's responsibility too?

None of this matters, they're winning and Kyrie is a HUGE part of why they are. Don't minimize the greatness/effectiveness of IT and Kyrie.


Breh, do you give any player besides Lebron, Duncan, and Jordan any REAL props? I've seen you dissect great players and minimize their greatness just to prove a point that doesn't hold much weight but besides your opinion. You'll bring up useless stats and completely ignore the results of said player, while ushering in your opinions on why the results of said player doesn't tell the whole story. Breh, it is what it is, no matter how many dissertations you type, you can't change the consensus and the results of what you don't favor. In no way am I attacking your knowledge, you're solidified, so don't get all sensitive on me. I'm just merely saying use your powers for everyone breh, youre too well versed in basketball to come off as a hater of most and a rider of a few.

 

[Juggalo Fred]

Brad Stevens is a beast sucks Hayward is out Celtics would be scary

Celtics will win it all next year when Hayward is back

 

[DonKnock]

This is what happens when you base your basketball analysis is memes rather than reality



Is there some secret forum where you Kobe dicceaters plan out your propaganda?

 

[Frump]

How? He's not gonna get the Celtics any further then they went last year

Bron will get to the finals until he drastically falls off