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Kyrie winning the war
Is Kyrie's Success in Boston an Indictment on LeBron?
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You'll disappear in May like hoes on Sunday.
Oh we'll be here it Celtics advance or Lebron losing his 6th title
(It's probably best for his legacy if he loses in ECF than to lose his 4th finals in 5 years)
Tell me dumb hoe, what tangible proof do you have Kyrie is playing better than he did in Cleveland when he went to 3 NBA finals an averaged career highs in pts, reb, and assists?
I bet you won't put nothing on Lebron losing in the EC.Oh we'll be here it Celtics advance or Lebron losing his 6th title
(It's probably best for his legacy if he loses in ECF than to lose his 4th finals in 5 years)
You apparently get that from NBA.com, which has Horford, Tatum, and Smart AHEAD of Kyrie on dRTG. Horford is 3rd in the entire NBA with 93.2, Kyrie well back with 95.5, Rozier and Brown are right behind him.
Sorry, but dRTG does NOT show that Kyrie is driving their success, unless you're going to argue that Horford, Tatum, and Smart's defense is driving it even more.
And gotta
at @Gil Scott-Heroin for dapping that KNOWING that he hates how dRTG is used and that that use in particular he would find bullshyt in other situations.Didn't CP3 finish top-3 in the NBA in steals last year with a top-10 dRTG?
fukk any intellectual consistency - Gil just gone full anti-Lebron now for anything.
I mostly agree with that and said so earlier.
Strange that @Gil Scott-Heroin dapped you though, because he claimed that Kyrie already was a 2-way player who had more than offensive impact.
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Bron and Cav stans told me that IT will get the same shots that Kyrie had while in Cleveland. Let's just wait til they get healthy and see if IT's impact will be comparable to Kyrie's on that team.
I dapped him because he was recognizing Kyrie's defensive activity (which is A LOT more than you've done in this thread), I don't agree with everything in his post. But at least he's making the effort to recognize Kyrie's play this season, instead of just posting bullshyt like 'he's averaging less points, assists, and rebounds' this season.And gotta
You're in full damage control mode now. Even hopping into the NBA Observations thread to unnecessarily scoff at the idea of Kyrie being the most clutch scorer in the league; marginalizing his resume down to just ONE shot. It's certainly funny coming from someone who's constantly posting the same YT clips over and over, I guess your search engine only returns you results of "LeBron" with all the dikkriding you do.
Didn't CP3 finish top-3 in the NBA in steals last year with a top-10 dRTG?
fukk any intellectual consistency - Gil just gone full anti-Lebron now for anything.
You're such a dishonest piece of shyt. You didn't even give me the opportunity to explain what I was dapping, again just manipulating shyt into pushing your own agenda. You're just like your mans with the damage control now. Same shyt you pulled after the Finals last season.
But I did recognize Kyrie's defensive activity in this thread, and I posted positively about his improved team play on offense too.
I said that someone calling Kyrie "by far the most clutch scorer in the league and it isn't even close" was ridiculous when his career playoff resume for the clutch IS centered around that one shot. He's been a good clutch scorer in the regular season and I've acknowledged that before, but his resume just isn't so long that you can make it out as him being head-and-shoulders above everyone else in the league.
And what wrong with posting 16 clips that show an entire career of clutch scoring from Lebron in DIRECT response to a guy who claimed I had no clips?
Why have you been dapping up that guy and not correcting a single one of the remarks he's made in this thread when EVERYTHING he said was BS?
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NBA literally just updated because, a couple an hours ago Kyrie was 9th. In fact even just re-checking it both Marcus Smart and Kyrie have an identical rating so you're logic that Smart has been the top perimeter defender doesn't hold weight unless you're saying both he and Kyrie are equals - which you didn't.You apparently get that from NBA.com, which has Horford, Tatum, and Smart AHEAD of Kyrie on dRTG. Horford is 3rd in the entire NBA with 93.2, Kyrie well back with 95.5, Rozier and Brown are right behind him.
Sorry, but dRTG does NOT show that Kyrie is driving their success, unless you're going to argue that Horford, Tatum, and Smart's defense is driving it even more.
And gotta
He's just gone full anti-Lebron now for anything.
I mostly agree with that and said so earlier.
Strange that @Gil Scott-Heroin dapped you though, because he claimed that Kyrie already was a 2-way player who had more than offensive impact.
Even if you take out the flawed concept of dRTG(since it's not the basis of my entire argument), literally every advanced metric has shown that Kyrie has been a plus defender and not not only has he been a massive part of the Celtics defense but he's been better defensively than anyone on the Cavs entire team at this point.
Kyrie leads the league in steals and is among the league leaders in deflections (5th) and he's hustling after loose balls on defense.
There's really no point in pretending Kyrie's defense and his overall completeness as player so far hasn't had a massive impact on the Celtics homie.
No, that is NOT how you use dRTG, you can't use it to tell which perimeter defender is the best out of two guys playing together.
Right now Lonzo Ball has a better defensive rating that KCP. Does that mean that Lonzo is the guy driving their perimeter defense?
Curry has a way better dRTG right now than Klay and Iggy. So it must be Curry who is taking all the tough assignments and driving GS's defense, right?
Saying that two guys on the team have the same dRTG mostly means that they're probably on the court at the same time. It does NOT tell you who is taking on more defensive responsibility or who is more important to the team's defensive success.
dRTG is basically team statistic. A good dRTG shows that the lineups which you are involved in are playing strong team defense. It does NOT tell who who in those lineups is most responsible for that success, because it cannot distinguish who is guarding who, who takes on the most responsibility, etc. It can show you some correlation, but only if there is a lot of switching-up of the lineups.
Even if you take out the flawed concept of dRTG(since it's not the basis of my entire argument), literally every advanced metric has shown that Kyrie has been a plus defender and not not only has he been a massive part of the Celtics defense but he's been better defensively than anyone on the Cavs entire team at this point.
Kyrie leads the league in steals and is among the league leaders in deflections (5th) and he's hustling after loose balls on defense.
There's really no point in pretending Kyrie's defense and his overall completeness as player so far hasn't had a massive impact on the Celtics homie.
I already said that Kyrie was playing well on defense this year, and that the Cavs are playing like shyt on that end. I've said that repeatedly.
But I disagree that Kyrie's defense is a main factor driving their success.
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Yeah, obviously we all know dRTG is flawed which is why I said even if you exclude it. I just mentioned it because it's yet another thing that shows Kyrie's impact this season.
Moreover, it's funny that you mention Steph because he too gets unfairly underrated on the defensive end(he's actually one of many plus defenders on GSW) and Kyrie is starting to actually play like Steph in that regard. Both have quick hands, laterally swift and are physically tougher than they look. Both as of now are among the best 2-way PGs in the NBA. We'll see if Kyrie can sustain this level though.
Anyway, we'll just have to agree to disagree - you're a fellow Bron stan so you know you still my guy but I just can't blindly co-sign intellectual dishonesty about Kyrie who is looking damn good in a new system and making his team better on both sides of the court.
You made a condescending remark about Kyrie doing a better job playing with an offensive system, almost implying that he hasn't in that past, ignoring the fact that the Cavs didn't have a proper offensive system to begin with. Amongst a whole bunch of patronizing shyt about the difference in his play, by trying to take the credit away from him and attributing it to other parties.But I did recognize Kyrie's defensive activity in this thread, and I posted positively about his improved team play on offense too.
You then claimed that Stevens had to convince him to give up the ball, and not run so much ISO as if Kyrie was resistant to the idea in the first place - as if he was this player that was stuck in his ways and wasn't willing to budge. And not a player who has always been open to a diverse, constant-action type of offense. Like I said, he was one of very few players who actually tried to run Blatt's motion offense - he was actively trying to run it; it's only taken him a handful of games in this Celtics system to fit in as if it were second nature.
shyt, he and Horford already have a better 1-2 combination (on and off the ball) than IT2 and Horford had all last season.
You then claimed that Kyrie's "selfishness" was the problem, referencing his box score averages being down without attaching the appropriate context, ignoring the fact that Cleveland are still running the same ole Bron Ball bullshyt, and Kyrie is a snug fit with one of the best motion offenses in the league (in terms of structure).
You can't blame Kyrie for the Cavs lack of defense anymore
You can't blame Kyrie for the Cavs lack of creativity and ball movement anymore
Just about every single one of your talking points designed around shytting on Kyrie has been disproven already.
1000-word handwritten apology this week
It's not even ridiculous at all. He's one of the few players who's been a constant in clutch scoring every single year since his rookie season. Now it seems like you're trying to shift the argument into saying his resume is centered around that one shot, when in the other thread you were implying that he's "literally" only made one big shot playoffs, as if nothing else was noteworthy that could be used in argument for his resume.
And even if you wanna shift your argument into it being centered around that one shot, why wouldn't arguably the greatest clutch shot in NBA history be a centralized point for a player's resume? It's bigger point than LeBron has.
Since you love to post YT clips of clutch shots, and you seem to think Kyrie's only hit one clutch shot in the playoffs:
You won't find another player in the league who has hit more clutch shots than Kyrie by the time they're 25. He doesn't need an extensive resume that's bigger than everyone else's to prove that he's the best clutch scorer right now. This is all before LeBron went back to Cleveland -
And even if I don't agree with the notion of him being "head and shoulders" above everyone else, it still doesn't take away from your pettiness to quote that poster. If it wasn't about Kyrie I doubt you would've even paid it any attention.
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