Is K POP just modern day blackface?

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And black people not even getting paid off of it.

But we could just do the same right?

Wu tang is all we got :hubie:
A lot of Black song writers and producers are making bank off K pop. K pop companies have no issues hiring American song writers and producers. That's why their sound is becoming more and more westernized.
 

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to answer OP's question, yeah it is




there was a 1993 OG 2Pac song of him ranting about rooftop koreans during the 1992 LA riots that treated koreans differently for killing a black teenage girl, and the justice system failed to protect blacks against other racist minorties who were there to protect their stores but were savages behind a gun, to experience that real american hatred and racism first hand...if social media was available back then, the outrage would have been immense, but it was drowned out and not even reported if it wasn't for the LA locals :francis::pacspit:


it was a random ass song that he ranted on too hit em up-style at the end of it (and not just the lyrics that were intact or muted), wiped almost completely gone if it wasn't for heavy collectors. i forgot what it was and it randomly surfaced during the OG leaks surrounding Loyal To the Game remix sessions, and knowing 2Pac, he didn't just do just 1 song and it was all censored by the time the mixed down versions came out

https://genius.com/2pac-crooked-nikka-too-lyrics
https://genius.com/Thug-life-nikkaz-in-the-pen-lyrics

koreans have state-sponsored entertainment in movies and music for their national export that they copied their blueprint from J-Pop that feeds into their national GDP. meanwhile, north koreans actively scams and hacks for bitcoin so they're not any better towards the nation's arm race to fund their government given that they have sanction restrictions at that corner of the globe bordering and trying to double dip in communist and democratic monetary incentives and influences, which was why the korean war was fought to 'liberate' south korea from communism

korea even copied evangelical mega churches in the south and runs religion-based non-taxable ponzi schemes to make people pay 10% of their earnings towards the churches' tithe...these are immoral heathens under the guise of religion to do bad things because they weren't born under generational christianity to understand it, where religion was brought in by missionaries after the korean war...that shyt is buried, the news broadcasters barely ever talk about because other minorities are 'protected' and 'black savagery' is always propagated in the news cycles...if it's a black shooter, shyt comes out immediately by the evening news and is plastered for all to see, if it's any other race other than black or mexican, they wait a full day before reporting it quietly after the initial news wave subsides


the difference between japan and korea is that Japan actually understands the artform and is transformative towards japanese interpretative fusion while k-pop just makes a b*stardized knock off versions of the original (like korean snacks vs japanese snacks), slap their name on it, and cut corners not really understanding the essential ingredients of the artform they are copying from and performs/delivers it in a very ignorant/mocking way....japan has nepotism, but the koreans themselves have cultural elitism so they think they are better than everyone else laughing behind closed doors, even that gangnam style fakkit said that he hated america in some interview before he blew up


anime is mostly japanese but these dumbass new generations don't realize real talent can't be replicated so easily, so only the lowest hanging fruit gets copied, so they are liking k-pop because it's an off-brand because j-pop warped into some weirdo shyt altogether with electronic autotune singers and avatars that aren't even real. j-pop always had male ghostwriters but they just removed the female singer altogether for less overhead towards something electronic and less appealing to cut costs competing against government stipends from state-sponsored korean entertainment, so it's a geopolitical mess for market share, sustenance, and clout over there, (given that japan is an island where everything is expensive and south korea fukks up and get into trade sanctions when double dealing with both communist and capitalist nations while making money laundering fronts for north korea's stolen bitcoin) on who can reduce their R&D to just mere copying into becoming a total minstrel shyt show to cater to their audience but then haphazardly also grabbing the attention from the nations and the cultures that they copied from, etc



like imagine if BMF is operating at the korean gov't's level and is involved towards laundering north korea's stolen bitcoin to make a bunch of bleu davinci's, that's basically k-pop. their audience is phone bot farms, similar to balenciaga copying high end products from normal shyt with nobody perusing their empty stores because most of their money comes from sex trafficking their runway models to elites, with that weirdo BDSM panda bear as their dog whistle announcement...a bunch of entertainment and high end fashion are money laundering fronts hiding in plain sight catering to some generic audience, but it's sophisticated and are ran at the multi-national sponsored level...they are just brazenly biting otherwise....for every alphabet agent that's reading thecoli, investigate this blatant bullshyt that has real money behind it and leave our community alone, ffs...go fetch

 
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anybody over the age of 15 listening to this shyt is a fukking pedo im sorry

im open minded as hell man but there is no cultural value in this shyt. im hesitant to call it music

its a product to be sold
 

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If there's one thing k-pop pioneered it's this new level of stanning artists that goes so far beyond what we've seen in previous decades. Sure some fans did crazy stuff to Beyonce, Britney Spears, Michael Jackson, etc but the way personal lives are being penetrated now is on another level. Plus the way fights over personal decisions/opinions/family/etc become online fodder to be fought over....that shyt was not nearly as toxic amongst American fans until pop fans started imitating the k-pop stan behavior. It's also spread to rap, as we saw with the recent rap battle where people made it their duty to dig into a rapper's personal life in order to help the other guy win.
 

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I can’t wait until koreans make K AFRO music and basically take Nigerian culture.

If they’re bold enough to try it. I’d be interested to see if it works. :banderas:
 

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K-Pop is warped because it’s cultural appropriation distilled from cultural appropriation. It’s a super-stepped-on cocaine version of saccharine minstrelsy. That said, I’ve encountered a striking number of black folks in their late 20s who go to K-Pop shows. Imagine mainstream American culture b*stardizing your contributions and shytting them out its a$$hole and another country’s culture eating that shyt and then shytting out an even more watery pile of that culture, and then your grandchildren eating a plate of it with smiles on their faces.
:mjpls::mjpls::mjpls:





welcome to my world.

Till krs disses bambaata.
It gets difficult to give hiphop.
which is the cultural steering point.
away from this minstrel show meets black nationalist lacking style of content.
yet without the new school way of thought person doing the job.
they asked for.
It gets hard to give rap. Or the last gateway for hiphop.
any relevent conversation space around a child.
Without damage to your parental sway.
So trying to explain.
this gateway covert racist minstrel show.
plus this androgynous pagan music to a child.
gets really difficult...when our generation had an entire culture to go to. Whereas...when left to our own devices to mature. We had choices. Now kids these days have no such luxury. Plus what they know to be has been contaminated past the point of no return as well. That the old school ban hammer approach will never work in the digital space. As anyone has the power.
to spin rock and roll all night..as well as planet rock. Whenever they so like.

when previously...there was a cultural push back.
that battled against androgynous pagan bathhouse behavior and pedophilic behavior in the club and social structure of everywhere.

Now that gateway has been ruined.
trying to get relevent gateway space. for any type of child like discovery is completely lost.
Especially with all the very strategic post woke condescending commercialized media warfare Going on. To have a small gateway for any black nationalism is all about dead in relevancy. To a child in this era.
Compared to our era and cultural space.
Like if you have children. Black children are becoming very difficult. to steer a child raised in any parts away from a hood environment. With black nationalism and pride in. Being black. Plus if they were in the hood. I seen children in the past gen.
like sugary sugary pop, and children toy type items like hanson and paw patrol.
Way past the point of what would be normal. Especially Age wise a lot of the kids come out very very sheltered. Enterprisingly bookish yet very very very sheltered. It is very different as well.
Even if they are amongst the worst environment. That I know this lack of black nationalism in our children happens in what ever environment.

for a post draft gen x black adult.
Raising children in a post modern world.
with no real black backbone of black nationalism is like right out of a world.
where spook who sat by the door never existed.
or in this instance is forgotten.
Where even Rodney king could draw a who.
from a black kid in Compton.
If you watch youtube reacts.. a lot of the Black couple vids.
have no idea about watts riots. Or the routine civil rights imagery.
that most kids in our generation are imprinted with.

It is wild.
It is like a world my father feared. come to life.
no bullshyt.

A where devoid of black nationalism. Yet filled with a world. that misappropriated.
everything that could differentiate us as black.

It is like we are living the movie havoc. While everyone who watched havoc acts like they never saw it. Yet are living just like the movie they never allegedly saw.

It is crazy.


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I can’t wait until koreans make K AFRO music and basically take Nigerian culture.

If they’re bold enough to try it. I’d be interested to see if it works. :banderas:
I’ve seen the discourse, everyone who’s not Black American claims that culture is meant to be shared and that they should be grateful

But we will see
 

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Made me think, we basically helping them build their soft power.. is there a knowledge transfer we get in return?

Would be cool for someone to teach us how to build a Black Samsung or Hyundai
 
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