Is it wrong to send kids to private school?

[Hiphoplives4eva]

And as far as the OP's question, rich people STILL pay taxes to fund public schools, even if their kids are in private school. So no people shouldn't be forced to put their child in shytty schools if they don't want to.

 

[Brown_Pride]

And as far as the OP's question, rich people STILL pay taxes to fund public schools, even if their kids are in private school. So no people shouldn't be forced to put their child in shytty schools if they don't want to.

exactly. Most schools are funding through property taxes, so even if they don't attend the school those rich folks are paying property taxes that go towards the schools.

I love the myopic stance most people take on this issue, this very very complex issue.
Parent involvement
Money
Community involvement
Teacher pay (money)
Nihilism
etc, etc, etc

Private schools are ok IMHO, they don't detract or inflate the problems public schools face.

The irony of some of that argument is that it's asking people who have money to put their kids education at risk, or at least detract from the quality of it, so that they can then force the public schools to be better ? ? ?

It imply's that other parents need rich parents to show them how to demand things? Doesn't that strike anyone else as...well condescending?

How about we just fund schools equally?

Quite honestly i was expecting to read some actual compelling argument.

That article is shyt and the reasoning moreso.

 

[88m3]

exactly. Most schools are funding through property taxes, so even if they don't attend the school those rich folks are paying property taxes that go towards the schools.

I love the myopic stance most people take on this issue, this very very complex issue.
Parent involvement
Money
Community involvement
Teacher pay (money)
Nihilism
etc, etc, etc

Private schools are ok IMHO, they don't detract or inflate the problems public schools face.

The irony of some of that argument is that it's asking people who have money to put their kids education at risk, or at least detract from the quality of it, so that they can then force the public schools to be better ? ? ?

It imply's that other parents need rich parents to show them how to demand things? Doesn't that strike anyone else as...well condescending?

How about we just fund schools equally?

Quite honestly i was expecting to read some actual compelling argument.

That article is shyt and the reasoning moreso.

1 Exactly and then some, not to mention the 10/40k a year they pump into the school and the economy

2 Again beaten horse but the more intelligent people you have around you will make the group grow as a whole. If you've got a classroom full of jackasses you're not going to get far.


3 Yes and no, you're implying public school education is bad/subpar, it's not.

4. meh it's sort of falls into the same thing I'm saying about the children... anyways a parent with money/experiences/intelligence(none of these being mutually exclusive but lets be honest) may be more apt to know how to deal with situations and system, and know how to get around it.


5. Fund schools equally? Awesome lets do it with Federal Money while we're at it.


6. A least you can come in here and agree with twism

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

imo private school is better and its not wrong to want your kids to go to them

public school is percieved as "fun" in the kids eyes because they let you dilly dally, fight, curse, dress scantily and develop other behaviors that are detrimental to what id consider to be necessary for growth in a youths moral aptitude with little punishment or improper punishment based on emotional tantrums thrown by teachers who could barely teach patience. as a former public school student ive also witnessed alot of other kids end up being taught the same courses over and over again from 9-12 grade because of failure to pass them(math, science, history, etc) yet they are jumped up a grade still and all is forgiven until they are stuck in 11-12 grade trying to catch up on credits so they can graduate, which is even more so promoting these negative patterns in their learning skills, eventually leading them to a life of mediocrity working min wage jobs while being satisfied, but that isnt to say NONE of them went on to better things after but it easily seems to be a wide margin considering teachers also have bias against which students are going to make the classes to teach them advanced subjects that prepare them for college, which doesnt make sense to me either, why one kid is pushed to go further and one isnt based on a grading system that teachers are given individual dominion over as well, failing students simply because they dont know how to teach them or they talk to them disrepectfully and they are sent to the administration office for punishments for reacting back, taking away valuable time to learn in the classroom

maybe someone who has went to private school can give some better perspective on the curriculum they have so we can compare and contrast, the one thing i do know about them is you dont have to be rich to go to private school at all

 

[ogc163]

There is nothing wrong with sending your kid to a private school, if you have the money and resources and the private school is the best school around of course it makes sense to send your child there. This is a horrible article to say the very least. I went to horrible public schools growing up, having the middle class kids from Riverdale show up to my elementary would have been hilarious to witness though.

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

http://www.all4ed.org/files/GraduationRates_FactSheet.pdf

 

[Vandelay]

At one point in time I wanted my kid to do both public and private growing up; so they get the book and the street knowledge. Those days have changed.

I understand the underlying argument the author of that article is making, however...you have 13 years to make sure the public school system does right by your kid...and in all honesty...you have 6 years, because by middle or junior high school most students are stuck in their ways; hence the fukked up yet some what accurate rationale state governments use to determine how many prisons they need to build. The public school system in my city is fukked, and I don't think a few years of playing hardball with the local government is going to fix it. I'm not gambling with my future son or daughters future like that.

 

[Rekkapryde]

because those parents are more involved then the hoodie parents. we all know this.

/thread

too many of us don't give a fukk about education, esp the hood. It needs to be the complete opposite, esp as a minority. It's the best way we can better ourselves.
It's not always about money.

 

[Shogun]

From what ive seen a large reason why parents send their kids to private schools is not necessarily for better teachers, facilities, or resources. The majority of the time parents feel private school will surround their kids with better peers.

 

[alybaba]

From what ive seen a large reason why parents send their kids to private schools is not necessarily for better teachers, facilities, or resources. The majority of the time parents feel private school will surround their kids with better peers.

That's just code for "less minorities"

 

[Shogun]

That's just code for "less minorities"

It's not really code...that's exactly what it means

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

Idk if I'll send my kids to private school, but I'll be giving them some home schooling

 

[theworldismine13]

It's not really code...that's exactly what it means

maybe it does mean that to some people, but i went to an all black elementary and mostly minority high school, both private

i dont know where yall live but there are plenty of black private schools, and vouchers would expand the number of black private schools

and again why should black people if white people want to send their kids to white schools?

 

[Brown_Pride]

1 Exactly and then some, not to mention the 10/40k a year they pump into the school and the economy

2 Again beaten horse but the more intelligent people you have around you will make the group grow as a whole. If you've got a classroom full of jackasses you're not going to get far.

but is that the fault of the rich parents or their kids? As a parent i'm obligated to 3 kids, my kids. My nature makes it so that i try to help others but when i have to choose what's best for them well that's just wtf i do. Keep in mind i don't send my kids to private school; but then the school in my area is decent enough.

3 Yes and no, you're implying public school education is bad/subpar, it's not.

clearly you've never been to a GOOD private school.

You can definitely find good public schools but the idea that we can take all public schools and compare them to all private schools and logic conclude that you can get the same education at a public school as you can at a private school is down right silly. In fact it's counter to your argument.
Either there's a benefit to private school and having those parents who "know how to do shyt" come over to help public schools or the entire premise of this thread, article and your argument is based on nothing.

4. meh it's sort of falls into the same thing I'm saying about the children... anyways a parent with money/experiences/intelligence(none of these being mutually exclusive but lets be honest) may be more apt to know how to deal with situations and system, and know how to get around it.

Well of course they will. And they have. They've taken that money/experience/intelligence and said FUK THAT to public schools. THAT IS THEIR PREROGATIVE/RIGHT. The onus to fix the school system is NOT on the head of the parents who are NOT in that school. It's on the heads of the school, the parents of THAT school, the state, the government and the kids.

5. Fund schools equally? Awesome lets do it with Federal Money while we're at it.

we should. At least THEN there would be some sort of reason/logic behind it.

6. A least you can come in here and agree with twism

Even a broken clock is right twice a day

I seriously don't see how anyone doesn't see this is saying parents at inner city schools are incapable. Having been in PTA (at bad schools) there's NEVER a lack of "know how" in those groups there's always a

in every group, in fact there are always several in my experience.

Again, this article takes a straight up myopic view, there's really no other way to see it.

Let's play the scenario out shall we.
You take 30-50 NEW formerly private school students and their parents then inject them into public schools. That fixes the school? It fixes the poverty and lack of parental involvement? It fixes the number of single parent homes? It fixes gangs? It fixes hunger? Poor text books, underpaid teachers, piss poor funding?

 

[theworldismine13]

we should. At least THEN there would be some sort of reason/logic behind it.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day

Let's play the scenario out shall we.
You take 30-50 NEW formerly private school students and their parents then inject them into public schools. That fixes the school? It fixes the poverty and lack of parental involvement? It fixes the number of single parent homes? It fixes gangs? It fixes hunger? Poor text books, underpaid teachers, piss poor funding?

it probably could, white people have magical powers, and they can do things that black can never do by themsleves, you aint know?

if you watched movies you would know that one white person can singlehandedly change entire schools of poor ignorant minorities, imagine what a bunch of them could do, white people are the key to improving minority education, we cant do it without them