Is it wrong to send kids to private school?

[rapbeats]

this thread represents the intellectual dead end and the intellectual famine black people are in, caused by following white liberals, at the end of the day liberalism leaves black people dependent on white people and looking at white people for salvation, white liberalism is the equivalent of white jesus, its poison

instead of pushing for vouchers and charters which will cause an explosion of innovation and creativity with our own schools and our methods of training, threadstarter is following the white liberals to some communist idea of forcing people to do something for the sake of "integration"

white people cannot save us, what will save us is individual freedom, economic freedom and innovation and creativity

i really wish there was a way to negative dap someone.

i just told you that charter school crap dont work in the hood. unless they are taking hood kids out and only keeping the super smart ones then recruiting the elite kids from other elite areas. that leaves the average hood kid to go where? you want that kid on the streets robbing you and me? cause thats whats going to happen. they wont have anything else to do. have you heard the term" we out here"
thats what they say. because thats how they feel. they are just LEFT OUT THERE without help. so whatever is whatever to them. anything goes.

 

[rapbeats]

you are forgetting that this country is based on individual freedom not communism, its communist to force people to go to a certain type of school

i didnt say i would force anyone to go anywhere. i said it would BENEFIT everyone involved if they chose to go there.


i look at it like this. you will give charity one way or another.

thru your taxes for programs that the state has to start to help disadvantaged youth/young adults/ and jailing young adults/youths/drug rehab programs cause they dont have anything to live for.

or

you have a charity or give funds/time to a charitable cause.

or

send your kids to a hood school instead of a private school. and go hard for your kids and all the kids while your child is at that school. which will bring up the schools standards. while saving money not sending your kid to private school.

 

[theworldismine13]

i really wish there was a way to negative dap someone.

i just told you that charter school crap dont work in the hood. unless they are taking hood kids out and only keeping the super smart ones then recruiting the elite kids from other elite areas. that leaves the average hood kid to go where? you want that kid on the streets robbing you and me? cause thats whats going to happen. they wont have anything else to do. have you heard the term" we out here"
thats what they say. because thats how they feel. they are just LEFT OUT THERE without help. so whatever is whatever to them. anything goes.

charter schools do work, you dont know what the hell you are talking about, and what i am saying we should get rid of the public school system and switch to charters and vouchers

where kids go to school should be where ever their parents want them to go to school, its not your place or my place or the government to tell another citizen where to go to school

 

[acri1]

i really wish there was a way to negative dap someone.

Dude would be negged to oblivion if this was the old board.

Funny thing is dude is always whining about white liberals, but he supports an ideology that would basically screw over kids from the hood (or really, poor/working class kids in general) that don't have overly involved parents.

 

[ltheghost]

http://living.msn.com/family-parent...ost?post=ab228ffc-1e99-4b37-a7b8-0b6a4c3fb240


click the link.

I'm sending my kid to private school. Only because I went to public school and it was a damn warzone most of the time. Now I know everyone's experiences in public school are different, but I want my kid to have the best education possible without all the insanity in public schools.

 

[theworldismine13]

i didnt say i would force anyone to go anywhere. i said it would BENEFIT everyone involved if they chose to go there.


i look at it like this. you will give charity one way or another.

thru your taxes for programs that the state has to start to help disadvantaged youth/young adults/ and jailing young adults/youths/drug rehab programs cause they dont have anything to live for.

or

you have a charity or give funds/time to a charitable cause.

or

send your kids to a hood school instead of a private school. and go hard for your kids and all the kids while your child is at that school. which will bring up the schools standards. while saving money not sending your kid to private school.

that is communist too and its a violation of individual freedom

 

[theworldismine13]

Dude would be negged to oblivion if this was the old board.

Funny thing is dude is always whining about white liberals, but he supports an ideology that would basically screw over kids from the hood (or really, poor/working class kids in general) that don't have overly involved parents.

there is nothing that i support that would screw anybody from the hood, thats a god dam lie

how on earth would giving parents in the hood multiple choices of where to send their kids to school screw the hood?

 

[Domingo Halliburton]

public schools are good and suggestions of anything else are right-wing extremism




edit: before anyone doesn't realize I'm joking I was referencing the article in this thread:
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/cory...zation-of-black-politics.137920/#post-5088046

 

[Shogun]

No, just do your research. A lot of private school are far less academically rigorous than public schools.

 

[rapbeats]

there is nothing that i support that would screw anybody from the hood, thats a god dam lie

how on earth would giving parents in the hood multiple choices of where to send their kids to school screw the hood?

GO BACK AND READ WHAT I POSTED ABOUT CHARTER SCHOOLS AND THE HOOD. IT DONT WORK, IT WONT WORK.

ASK YOURSELF this question. will the hoody parents change? NO. they are who they are for many reasons. some work related is the a reason why they cant be extra involved in their childs education other reasons are just pure laziness. so with that said. in reality that wont change any time soon. so what can be done in the mean time to help those people's KIDS who didnt ask to be brought up in poverty in a poor school system/setup. charter schools only work when the parents are heavily in volved. private schools, public schools work best when parents are HEAVILY involved. hood parents will not be heavily involved in any type of school. so now what? i told you what. private parents time to drop your kids off at the public schools. so we can get you to do what you do anyway at your kids school. but we need that at these local hood schools to boost them up. it will work because we see it with public schools that are placed in nice areas and wealthy folk go to those public schools.

more proof. every school with a high API score that is a public high school is in a non hood neighborhood.

http://schoolperformancemaps.com/ca/

i know this because i'm from LA so i know where these schools are located.

 

[theworldismine13]

GO BACK AND READ WHAT I POSTED ABOUT CHARTER SCHOOLS AND THE HOOD. IT DONT WORK, IT WONT WORK.

ASK YOURSELF this question. will the hoody parents change? NO. they are who they are for many reasons. some work related is the a reason why they cant be extra involved in their childs education other reasons are just pure laziness. so with that said. in reality that wont change any time soon. so what can be done in the mean time to help those people's KIDS who didnt ask to be brought up in poverty in a poor school system/setup. charter schools only work when the parents are heavily in volved. private schools, public schools work best when parents are HEAVILY involved. hood parents will not be heavily involved in any type of school. so now what? i told you what. private parents time to drop your kids off at the public schools. so we can get you to do what you do anyway at your kids school. but we need that at these local hood schools to boost them up. it will work because we see it with public schools that are placed in nice areas and wealthy folk go to those public schools.

more proof. every school with a high API score that is a public high school is in a non hood neighborhood.

http://schoolperformancemaps.com/ca/

i know this because i'm from LA so i know where these schools are located.

go back and read where i stated that i disagree with you and i said that charter schools do work, when did you become the last word on charter schools?

your idea has already been tried, its called busing, it was tried in the 60's and 70's and its a dumb idea

like i said, your posts represent the intellectual dead end white liberalism has led black people to, you're sitting here re-hashing busing ideas and trying to integrate schools, its corny

 

[acri1]

there is nothing that i support that would screw anybody from the hood, thats a god dam lie

how on earth would giving parents in the hood multiple choices of where to send their kids to school screw the hood?

Yeah, I'm sure you've throught this through.


Ok, poor black kid gets a school voucher that will cover the cost of tuition to a decent school way on the other side of town.

Only problem is, the voucher doesn't cover the cost of uniforms, transportation, books, etc. So very often he'll end up either going to one of the cheaper private schools, or may just his local public school anyway. Unfortunately, now said public school is getting less funding (due to the vouchers) and he's likely to get an even shyttier education.

But that's not it. Let's also keep in mind that public schools, by law, have to accept everyone. Private schools don't. Free Market FTW...right? So what's to stop private schools from screening out students who "don't fit the mold" of what they want their student body to be? Do you really think that poor/disadvantaged/urban students, even if they can manage to afford tuition, will actually be accepted into private schools at comparable rates to their more affluent counterparts? You would have to be pretty naive to think that. Most private schools (over 80%) are religious as well, so you could also have issues where kids of a certain religion are more likely to be accepted that others. And even ignoring that, private schools aren't regulated and can teach whatever curriculum they want. Is it really a good idea for taxpayers to fund schools that have no accountability to anyone as far as what they teach our kids? Do we really want taxes to go toward paying for kids to go to a school that teaches them that earth is 10,000 years old?

In your world, for all we know, the KKK could start a school and parents could use school vouchers to send their kids there if they want.



Also, I'll drop a little bit of knowledge - as far as the US goes, the idea of school vouchers came about after public schools were desegregated in the 1950s. This desegregation resulted in a lot of white flight to private schools, but eventually many whites found that they couldn't afford it and ended up having to put their kids back in public schools. This resulted in the voucher idea, as a way of keeping white kids out of integrated schools. The reason why people on the right are so big on school vouchers probably hasn't changed much. I'd suggest you think about that.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

fukk public schools, all they do is brainwash the youth and spread lies. They should just give communities grants to create charter schools, so communities can tailor the educational system to the local population.

The public school is system is failing America.

 

[theworldismine13]

Ok, poor black kid gets a school voucher that will cover the cost of tuition to a decent school way on the other side of town.

Only problem is, the voucher doesn't cover the cost of uniforms, transportation, books, etc. So very often he'll end up either going to one of the cheaper private schools, or may just his local public school anyway. Unfortunately, now said public school is getting less funding (due to the vouchers) and he's likely to get an even shyttier education.

But that's not it. Let's also keep in mind that public schools, by law, have to accept everyone. Private schools don't. Free Market FTW...right? So what's to stop private schools from screening out students who "don't fit the mold" of what they want their student body to be? Do you really think that poor/disadvantaged/urban students, even if they can manage to afford tuition, will actually be accepted into private schools at comparable rates to their more affluent counterparts? You would have to be pretty naive to think that. Most private schools (over 80%) are religious as well, so you could also have issues where kids of a certain religion are more likely to be accepted that others. And even ignoring that, private schools aren't regulated and can teach whatever curriculum they want. Is it really a good idea for taxpayers to fund schools that have no accountability to anyone as far as what they teach our kids? Do we really want taxes to go toward paying for kids to go to a school that teaches them that earth is 10,000 years old?

i think you are confused about my idea, first of all the public schools arent getting less funding because under my idea public schools dont exist in the first place

and the point of vouchers is that it would create an opportunity for black people to open up our own schools, that opportunity would encourage innovation and creativity

the voucher isnt suppose to cover the cost of every single private school in the country, if you cant afford it then you can afford it, the point of vouchers isnt to go to a white school, its so that we can open up our own schools

and as long as the school is passing whatever standards, then its up to the parents to decide if they want their kids to have a religious education

and yeah private and charters schools teach whatever they want, that is the point

In your world, for all we know, the KKK could start a school and parents could use school vouchers to send their kids there if they want.

its a free country, as long as a school is following all federal and state laws and regulations its fine, its hard to see how you can have a KKK school that meets the law and regulations, but if it does then so be it

the important things is that black people can open op their own schools, why are we always about what white people are doing?

Also, I'll drop a little bit of knowledge - as far as the US goes, the idea of school vouchers came about after public schools were desegregated int he 1950s. This desegregation resulted in a lot of white flight to private schools, but eventually many whites found that they couldn't afford it and ended up having to put their kids back in public schools. This resulted in the voucher idea, as a way of keeping white kids out of integrated schools. The reason why people on the right are so big on school vouchers probably hasn't changed much. I'd suggest you think about that.

here is a little bit of knowledge, integration went a little to far and we dont necessarily want to integrate with white people on everything

and integration is not a real strategy to improve black education

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

In your world, for all we know, the KKK could start a school and parents could use school vouchers to send their kids there if they want.


Also, I'll drop a little bit of knowledge - as far as the US goes, the idea of school vouchers came about after public schools were desegregated in the 1950s. This desegregation resulted in a lot of white flight to private schools, but eventually many whites found that they couldn't afford it and ended up having to put their kids back in public schools. This resulted in the voucher idea, as a way of keeping white kids out of integrated schools. The reason why people on the right are so big on school vouchers probably hasn't changed much. I'd suggest you think about that.