Is it time to shame black entertainers?

[Consigliere]

You don't have to shame them or elevate them. Lol. As if the only way to go thru life is hating or loving something. Just stop giving them so much attention.

Black people are waaaaaay too invested in the daily business and personal lives of entertainers.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Yall are so jealous

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

How in the Hell did Black people go from a talent like Stevie Wonder to something called young thug? I feel so bad for this generation. You all have no idea what kind of music that Black people created and it was not a bunch of degenerate shyt about killing or stealing or degrading women or worse yet women degrading themselves.

Just listen to the craftsmanship in a song called "Golden Lady" by Stevie Wonder. He actually wrote music. Played instruments. Sang his ass off and made other people happy to hear his music.

I'll gladly enjoy my degenerate, empty music thank you.











The soundtrack to my life.

Think music has to always be positive bruhs.

When life hasn't been positive since Cain clapped Abel.

 

[PhonZhi]

How in the Hell did Black people go from a talent like Stevie Wonder to something called young thug? I feel so bad for this generation. You all have no idea what kind of music that Black people created and it was not a bunch of degenerate shyt about killing or stealing or degrading women or worse yet women degrading themselves.

Just listen to the craftsmanship in a song called "Golden Lady" by Stevie Wonder. He actually wrote music. Played instruments. Sang his ass off and made other people happy to hear his music.

I think rappers not promoting trash and self hate would be a great start to fixing the community whether you think so or not.

The older I get, I really hate trap/drill/shoot em up/bang bang music

flith

This rite here. Everybody in here thats saying music doesn't matter is sadly mistaken. THEY know how powerful and influential it is, thats why they INTENTIONALLY MANIPULATED it to where its currently at. This poison and the "lifestyle" they promote are leading the black youth astray mentally and also demonizing the image of the black race globally. The word "thug" is synonymous with the black male because of hiphop. The saddest part is that we've been conditioned to call this music promoting black genocide "just entertainment"

 

[Samori Toure]

I'll gladly enjoy my degenerate, empty music thank you.











The soundtrack to my life.

Think music has to always be positive bruhs.

When life hasn't been positive since Cain clapped Abel.

Listen to this. This is the shyt that your musically weak ass generation is sampling. Btw, have you ever listened to Curtis Mayfield? You should give him a listen sometime, because he is describing the same Hood and the same drugs that the rappers are describing; except his is trying to uplift people.

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

Listen to this. This is the shyt that your musically weak ass generation is sampling. Btw, have you ever listened to Curtis Mayfield? You should give him a listen sometime, because he is describing the same Hood and the same drugs that the rappers are describing; except his is trying to uplift people.

"musically weak ass generation " the ignorance of this statement

And post artists I've already heard.

 

[Piff Perkins]

I tend to disagree with @PhonZhi on conspiracy shyt with regards to the music industry, having seen it first hand. However when I look at the impact of rap in Chicago for instance even I take pause and admit this shyt is hurting people.

All that being said...one thing that stuns me is that urban music today isn't a reflection of the times, at all. Think about this. There was a lot of revolutionary music in the 60s and 70s - from anti Vietnam shyt to Civil Rights anthems to feminist stuff etc etc. In the 80s there was punk, which rebelled against the status quo. There was also rap, from the Afrocentrism of Public Enemy to the "hippy rap" of Native Tongues to more commercial stuff. In the early 90s there was a lot of racial tension and it could be heard through our music. Ice Cube, Tupac, etc.

I was watching that Nina Simone documentary on Netflix yesterday (it's really good) and at one point she said something like "I am expressing myself in the times I live in. What should an artist do if not express the times he or she lives in?" And it really brought home how the rap scene has NO connection to black people today. The black culture/being is more than the club, yet the club is what 90% of mainstream music is about today. The artists have nothing to say about police brutality, in fact many outright blame blacks for the violence. For every Kendrick or Cole or Vince Staples there's 20 Young Thugs. It's disgusting. I'm all for party and club music, but it's amazing how there is apparently no room for anything else on the radio.

 

[Samori Toure]

"musically weak ass generation " the ignorance of this statement

And post artists I've already heard.

If they sampling other people shyt then they are musically weak. Hell they don't even play instruments, so I am doubting very seriously that they can read music.

 

[Barnett114]

impact of rap in Chicago

it's not the 60 years of gang strong holds, the tearing down of the housing projects placing gangs in new areas, the 33% unemployment rate in black areas, the amount of drugs and guns?

While I agree the music is garbage these problems existed before hand.

 

[Barnett114]

If they sampling other people shyt then they are musically weak. Hell they don't even play instruments.

Sampling is at an all time low in the music industry.

The FL Studio/Pro Tools sound has taken over.

 

[Samori Toure]

it's not the 60 years of gang strong holds, the tearing down of the housing projects placing gangs in new areas, the 33% unemployment rate in black areas, the amount of drugs and guns?

60 years? More like over 100 years. People keep forgetting the Irish and the Italian gangs that used to be and still are in Chicago.

 

[Piff Perkins]

it's not the 60 years of gang strong holds, the tearing down of the housing projects placing gangs in new areas, the 33% unemployment rate in black areas, the amount of drugs and guns?

While I agree the music is garbage these problems existed before hand.

I'm not suggesting the music is the main factor by any means. I'm talking about the way music is used by the gangs to recruit, brag, threaten, etc. It's deeper than rap right now.

You're right, the main issues are institutional racism and discrimination. Specifically redlining and the creation of "the ghetto." I don't want anyone to think I'm saying rap is the main or biggest problem.

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

If they sampling other people shyt then they are musically weak. Hell they don't even play instruments, so I am doubting very seriously that they can read music.

Nice, you've just dismissed every innovative artist post-1970's.

And again, your ignorance is hilarious.

 

[Barnett114]

I'm not suggesting the music is the main factor by any means. I'm talking about the way music is used by the gangs to recruit, brag, threaten, etc. It's deeper than rap right now.

You're right, the main issues are institutional racism and discrimination. Specifically redlining and the creation of "the ghetto." I don't want anyone to think I'm saying rap is the main or biggest problem.

Agree with everything. I don't know about the recruiting part, have never seen it but the other stuff is true.

Then the stuff these guys put on social media. The stuff I read has me shaking my head. Especially the subtweeting dissing dudes dead homies.

 

[Samori Toure]

Nice, you've just dismissed every innovative artist post-1970's.

And again, your ignorance is hilarious.

What are you writing about? I haven't dismissed any artist post 1970's. That is absurd. I dismiss a bunch of rappers that are not as innovative as you believe they are. Hell there were some great musical act in the 1970's, 1980's and beyond, but it isn't this gangster shyt.

I will go one step further; there have been some decent rappers like Kool Moe Dee, but as soon as he made a song called Knowledge is King; we haven't heard from that dude since.