Is it safe to say D Block were studio gangstas?

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SunGod said:
Who knows? I remember when Saigon got at them when I first started hearing about him though.

Saigon: Jadakiss. Now here’s another one who is like 50 Cent to me. (Saigon sighs). This dude has a voice. He could touch so many people. I love the dude, he could have people following him and he could lead people in the right direction. But he’s confused. He don’t know if he wants to be a gangster, a thug, or a person who is like, ‘Why are we living in these f---ed up conditions?’ When he makes a song like ‘Why?’, your next song should be some solutions. Let’s try to change this. When you go from one aspect (songs like ‘Why?’) to the next – I’m a gangster, I’ll shoot you, I’ll kill you, especially when you never even really shot nobody and never really lived that life. Because I know Dee and Wah (the founders of the Ruff Ryders label that signed Jadakiss). I know Dee. Dee is my friend. I know Jabbar. The dudes who really are the Ruff Ryders – the dudes that get busy in the streets. It ain’t the artists.

If these dudes (the artists) do something they are just doing it to try and prove a point. You are not doing it because that’s what’s in your heart. You don’t become a thug at the age of thirty years old. That don’t happen. You don’t become a thug at 28 years old. When you are a thug, you are thuggin’ from young. You are the kid who fights on the bus. You are the kid who is always in some shyt. (when parents and adults are like), ‘I don’t want you with that kid. (laughter). That’s the kid I was. That’s the man I don’t want to be. So when a grown man is talking about, ‘I’m thugging and I’m gangster’- you are lying, man. Because I lived that, I went that route and I have seen the harsh realities of living that life and no man wants to live like that!

Jadakiss talks about when his ‘…coke comes in they got to use the scales that they weigh the whales with’ (Saigon is quoting a line in Jadakiss’ song, ‘We Gon’ Make It). Number one, if you was really selling coke you are not going to get on a record and say, ‘I SELL COKE.’ You would be indicting yourself. Look at John Forte. This nikka’ ain’t never rapped about coke in his life. And they catch this mother f----r with like thirteen pounds of the shyt.Everybody is lookin; like, ‘Damn, this dude was selling drugs?’ Because dogs that bark don’t bite. And if I’m really selling drugs, I’m not going to get on record and say, ‘Hey guess what your honor? I’m selling crack.’ That don’t make sense.

That’s why you know dudes who really lived the street life because they are not going to get on record and say, ‘Hey, I’m from the streets. I’m from the hood. I keep it hood.’ When nikkas are saying ‘they keep it hood’ too much, I know they are frontin’. When a nikka says, ‘Yeah I’m hood. We do this. We do that…’ Nah B. You are frontin’.

Number one, sound travels at a real fast pace, and if you was somebody whose name was making noise in any neighborhood, in New York City, people are going to know about you. It is a very small city as big as people think it is. People are going to know about you. People knew about Killer Ben. People knew about the real 50 Cent. People knew about them, and these dudes never had rap records. And their names spread all through the boroughs. People knew about Supreme Team. These dudes was drug dealers. People knew about them. I never heard about Jadakiss slinging mad coke. I never heard about a dude named Styles from Yonkers who used to shoot up parties. I heard about Father Divine. I heard Lucas. I heard about Guy Toney. I heard about dudes like that. These dudes never even had rap records and you was hearing about them, because the streets talk. The streets, they speak. So when a rapper gets out and comes out and be like, ‘Yeah you know, I did this, nikkas was in the hood, nikkas…’ Come on, why I ain’t never heard about you? Why I ain’t never heard about you if you was doing all of this shyt that you were portraying in your records?

If you ask people who know me – I went to jail at fifteen years old. I didn’t get a chance to become a street legend. But if you ask people in my circle who knew me and grew up with me, they’ll tell you, ‘This nikka was a f-----ng knucklehead. He used to stay in some shyt.’ Know what I mean? That is the one thing I give 50 (Cent). 50 was a person who I heard about before I even heard about him as a rapper. They used to call him ‘Boo.’ He was a knucklehead and a trouble-maker. So I know his story is not false. His story is reality. My whole point with him is, ‘OK, we know you keep it gangster, we know you have been there and you have done it (laughter). But is there ever going to come a point where you tell people that it is not right?’

You ever see "I’m Gonna Get You Sucka"?
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Pop123 said:
This is the truest, realest interview I've ever read. Salute to that man Saigon, I can tell he is/was official, which is probably why he never really popped off.
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Same Saigon who ran away after sucker punching Prodigy? Same Sai who said all that shyt about Ross and others then tried to say SOHH was lying until they played the audio footage?

He's a weirdo and a failure.
 
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Sinister said:
Same Saigon who ran away after sucker punching Prodigy? Same Sai who said all that shyt about Ross and others then tried to say SOHH was lying until they played the audio footage?

He's a weirdo and a failure.
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It’s hard to be an actual studio gangsta, lol, like you’re just totally flat out lying and never did nothing like what you rap about. People who knew you are gonna speak out eventually and tell everyone that wasn’t you at all. The “fake” rapper ish to me is these dudes painfully exaggerating, imo that’s studio gangsta ish.

I’m sure all the Lox sold a little drugs…I know Styles was a little knucklehead…but nothing even close to the level they rap about. Most rappers are like that…it’s rare you get a Jay-z or a Jeezy or a 50 Cent…someone who was actually dealing with weight and not just bustin down bundles into baggies then rapping about movin bricks and killing 4 people a day, etc… Rap is like 98% embellishers
 
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Pop123 said:
It’s hard to be an actual studio gangsta, lol, like you’re just totally flat out lying and never did nothing like what you rap about. People who knew you are gonna speak out eventually and tell everyone that wasn’t you at all. The “fake” rapper ish to me is these dudes painfully exaggerating, imo that’s studio gangsta ish.

I’m sure all the Lox sold a little drugs…I know Styles was a little knucklehead…but nothing even close to the level they rap about. Most rappers are like that…it’s rare you get a Jay-z or a Jeezy or a 50 Cent…someone who was actually dealing with weight and not just bustin down bundles into baggies then rapping about movin bricks and killing 4 people a day, etc… Rap is like 98% embellishers
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Jayz ain't no real gangster either he's a super fraud
 
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JYoung24 said:
Jayz ain't no real gangster either he's a super fraud
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Explain…not that it’s important but I’m curious.

I don’t think he was a gangster…he was just a for real, actual semi-big drug dealer…which is rare in rap. You don’t run with who he ran with nickelin and dimin. Think about the men who he’s been connected with and was tight with before rap…Klein, Emory, OG Juan, etc. He didn’t meet them because he was a rapper and they was starting a label or sumn, lol. All 3 of them would have been labeled “Kingpins” in court when they were gettin money out there
 
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i dont think so. They got it in with Benzino folks before. And even Trick Trick crew. they admit they aint win against trick and all that.
 
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