Is it morally permissible to lie to women to get sex/money/etc?

[Panther]

no point in lying (unless you're hiding a relationship)

these women wanna fukk too

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

This is the biggest one when you get later in age with the chics that wanna settle down and check those boxes. They don't know how to date and actually get to know someone. I just had this convo with a chic after a month of talking and she was trying to set up appointment times to talk and see each other... when I refused and she's stated it's because I don't really like her I just straight up told her I don't know if I even like you or not yet so give it time she lost it and said I was leading her on about being serious on getting into a relationship lol

If you were talking for a month, then no, you DIDN’T like her enough, and women who want a serious relationship don’t have time to be waiting around like that. You’re fine with the possibility of someone else coming along and scooping her up. When a woman is the one, you know pretty early on.

 

[Jazzy B.]

Don’t feel bad about cheating on these women either.

They cheat on y’all everyday EMOTIONALLY with male ORBITERS on social media, the office etc.

They got men in their phones, DM’s etc who they KNOW want date them, dine them or whatever. They play into that and USE these men

 

[UpNext]

IDK, what's considered a lie. Is wearing hair dye a lie? Veneers? Waist trainer? Makeup? Is renting a Lamborghini and a Air BNB at a top floor condo and presenting as if they are yours that much different than putting on a whole face and waking up looking like a different person? Are hidden cosmetic surgeries lies? Should a dude be upfront that he got leg extensions? Is wearing weave and presenting as if it's your hair a lie?

Guess it depends on the lie to me.

 

[Scaaar]

you don't think a month is enough time to know if you are interested

We went out on multiple dates within that month. So of course I'm interested enough to take you out. But trying to force me to tie you down after a month is absurd. Let it play out and get to know each other. Yeah I like you but I don't know enough about you yet that's all. If that doesn't work then she was free to move on elsewhere. She did that and we didn't talk for 4 days then she came back and we had sex but we're still on the same status quo lol.

 

[Scaaar]

If you were talking for a month, then no, you DIDN’T like her enough, and women who want a serious relationship don’t have time to be waiting around like that. You’re fine with the possibility of someone else coming along and scooping her up. When a woman is the one, you know pretty early on.

Makes sense somewhat. But I'm in my 30s and have been married before. All that falling head over heels and chasing off pure lust has come and gone. I move slow because I want to actually get to know you. Folks be too quick to rush the process to get in a relationship in 1 month and then be broken up by month 4 because they realized they're not really compatible and it was just sex that held it together. Not knocking it but that's the young love/puppy love that I just don't do anymore.

 

[Gloxina]

It was ok to lie and run game on chics from 16-27ish. After that time you should have enough experience with women to understand that you just gotta tell the truth to all of them regardless of how blunt or harsh it is. If she likes you enough or sees some sort of future with you she'll lie enough to herself to stay in proximity with you lol

It’s sad/funny because it’s true.
No need to lie! Lol

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Makes sense somewhat. But I'm in my 30s and have been married before. All that falling head over heels and chasing off pure lust has come and gone. I move slow because I want to actually get to know you. Folks be too quick to rush the process to get in a relationship in 1 month and then be broken up by month 4 because they realized they're not really compatible and it was just sex that held it together. Not knocking it but that's the young love/puppy love that I just don't do anymore.

There’s nothing wrong with that. Everyone doesn’t need to rush into things, and everyone isn’t dating for marriage.

 

[Bumblebreh]

I hear conflicting opinions on this. Some people call it "running game" or chalk it up to the "game".

Other people think you gotta be honest through and through and be righteous with these hoes. If you got a woman, let them know. If you broke, let them know etc

Some dudes are willing to lie about every aspect of their life for the p*ssy.

In the past I've told women I got feelings for them or have interest in a relationship just to get the p*ssy when in reality if I was honest with myself, I know I didn't. I can see now that I was thoroughly dishonest and I should do better. At the same time, some of these skeezers (not upstanding women) don't really deserve anything better than getting shytted on and lied to because they treat others that way and they are maniacally egotistical and need to be humbled. I still have a hard time doing ALL THAT though, but theres always some dude willing to dog them out and ghost them

Thoughts?

Where on the honesty/lie scale do you fall with regards to this?

If you have to lie or manipulate your way into the bedroom, you are a scumbag.

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

I hear conflicting opinions on this. Some people call it "running game" or chalk it up to the "game".

Other people think you gotta be honest through and through and be righteous with these hoes. If you got a woman, let them know. If you broke, let them know etc

Some dudes are willing to lie about every aspect of their life for the p*ssy.

In the past I've told women I got feelings for them or have interest in a relationship just to get the p*ssy when in reality if I was honest with myself, I know I didn't. I can see now that I was thoroughly dishonest and I should do better. At the same time, some of these skeezers (not upstanding women) don't really deserve anything better than getting shytted on and lied to because they treat others that way and they are maniacally egotistical and need to be humbled. I still have a hard time doing ALL THAT though, but theres always some dude willing to dog them out and ghost them

Thoughts?

Where on the honesty/lie scale do you fall with regards to this?

everyone lies.....everyone

anybody that tells you they have never lied...is lying and definitely cant be trusted

i have lied to women before....mainly when i was juggling women...making excuses to disappear...shyt like that....
never pretended i liked one to get sex though...theres no reason to....theres always one somewhere that will like you...so why bother....

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

Get OFF that nice guy shyt.

You think women give a fukk when they use y’all for dinner dates knowing they’ll NEVER see you again or give you sex and then ghost y’all?

women lie all the time....truth

 

[Soldier]

Depends on the lie.

Even the ugliest woman can get sexed up by a man that's a few notches out of her league. Women can be 100% honest because dudes are thirsty and will fukk no matter what. Sex to a woman is like looking for rice in Japan...always available....so they love it but it's not as valuable.

Men have to "do" shyt to get laid. While we are gatekeepers to relationships, ladies are gatekeepers to sex. As such, I can understand why dudes lie. Unless you're on a certain level of looks/height/power/fame/wealth etc., you'll rarely get approached and will face lots of rejection (exceptions if you have legit game).

Ladies play the game to their advantage so men should do the same.

If women were like men, lying wouldn't be needed. The reality is only 10 to 15% of men have the physical appeal to attract women JUST off their looks/body etc. Most men need some other sort of edge, usually game or displays of money/power. Women have shown that they'll put up with an IMMENSE amount of bullshyt for a handsome nikka or a rich nikka. They'll happily share a HVM while simultaneously complaining about it. Men gotta be cutthroat. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.

And even if you’re a physically and well-dressed handsome man , you will get rejected often by many women anyway, simply because no man can’t please and attract all women on earth out there. The universally attractive man doesn’t exist. Plenty of women definitely have types and are specifically and particularly attracted to particular and unique ethnic, social, cultural and physical characteristics in men , or are just fickle when it comes to attraction and emotional connection with other men. The latter group of women just dont know exactly what they want in men, they’re wishy-washy af. Many of them are also trend followers and will only want to date the men who are poppin, trendy and in season at the moment.

 

[Gloxina]

And even if you’re a physically and well-dressed handsome man , you will get rejected often by many women anyway, simply because no man can’t please and attract all women on earth out there. The universally attractive man doesn’t exist. Plenty of women definitely have types and are specifically and particularly attracted to particular and unique ethnic, social, cultural and physical characteristics in men , or are just fickle when it comes to attraction and emotional connection with other men. The latter group of women just dont know exactly what they want in men, they’re wishy-washy af. Many of them are also trend followers and will only want to date the men who are poppin, trendy and in season at the moment.

Of course universally attractive men exit, just like women.
They are rare, just like women. And they usually get the same treatment beautiful women receive. Lol

 

[Soldier]

Of course universally attractive men exit, just like women.
They are rare, just like women. And they usually get the same treatment beautiful women receive. Lol

What I mean is that women will find those very rare « universally attractive » men objectively attractive, but they won’t find them attractive personally. You can agree on the objective attractiveness of a person without wanting him or her. Each person has just different and individual tastes in men/women.

 

[King_Kamala61]

I literally stole another artist's name, charisma and art to be a made up character of that artist....Id think I'd definitely would be the one to lie to get with a woman....on some Aladdin shyt. Just lying lying lying.