Is it morally permissible to lie to women to get sex/money/etc?

[Panther]

no point in lying (unless you're hiding a relationship)

these women wanna fukk too

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

This is the biggest one when you get later in age with the chics that wanna settle down and check those boxes. They don't know how to date and actually get to know someone. I just had this convo with a chic after a month of talking and she was trying to set up appointment times to talk and see each other... when I refused and she's stated it's because I don't really like her I just straight up told her I don't know if I even like you or not yet so give it time she lost it and said I was leading her on about being serious on getting into a relationship lol

If you were talking for a month, then no, you DIDN’T like her enough, and women who want a serious relationship don’t have time to be waiting around like that. You’re fine with the possibility of someone else coming along and scooping her up. When a woman is the one, you know pretty early on.

 

[Jazzy B.]

Don’t feel bad about cheating on these women either.

They cheat on y’all everyday EMOTIONALLY with male ORBITERS on social media, the office etc.

They got men in their phones, DM’s etc who they KNOW want date them, dine them or whatever. They play into that and USE these men

 

[UpNext]

IDK, what's considered a lie. Is wearing hair dye a lie? Veneers? Waist trainer? Makeup? Is renting a Lamborghini and a Air BNB at a top floor condo and presenting as if they are yours that much different than putting on a whole face and waking up looking like a different person? Are hidden cosmetic surgeries lies? Should a dude be upfront that he got leg extensions? Is wearing weave and presenting as if it's your hair a lie?

Guess it depends on the lie to me.

 

[Scaaar]

you don't think a month is enough time to know if you are interested

We went out on multiple dates within that month. So of course I'm interested enough to take you out. But trying to force me to tie you down after a month is absurd. Let it play out and get to know each other. Yeah I like you but I don't know enough about you yet that's all. If that doesn't work then she was free to move on elsewhere. She did that and we didn't talk for 4 days then she came back and we had sex but we're still on the same status quo lol.

 

[Scaaar]

If you were talking for a month, then no, you DIDN’T like her enough, and women who want a serious relationship don’t have time to be waiting around like that. You’re fine with the possibility of someone else coming along and scooping her up. When a woman is the one, you know pretty early on.

Makes sense somewhat. But I'm in my 30s and have been married before. All that falling head over heels and chasing off pure lust has come and gone. I move slow because I want to actually get to know you. Folks be too quick to rush the process to get in a relationship in 1 month and then be broken up by month 4 because they realized they're not really compatible and it was just sex that held it together. Not knocking it but that's the young love/puppy love that I just don't do anymore.

 

[Gloxina]

It was ok to lie and run game on chics from 16-27ish. After that time you should have enough experience with women to understand that you just gotta tell the truth to all of them regardless of how blunt or harsh it is. If she likes you enough or sees some sort of future with you she'll lie enough to herself to stay in proximity with you lol

It’s sad/funny because it’s true.
No need to lie! Lol

 

[CreepyMcCreeperson]

Makes sense somewhat. But I'm in my 30s and have been married before. All that falling head over heels and chasing off pure lust has come and gone. I move slow because I want to actually get to know you. Folks be too quick to rush the process to get in a relationship in 1 month and then be broken up by month 4 because they realized they're not really compatible and it was just sex that held it together. Not knocking it but that's the young love/puppy love that I just don't do anymore.

There’s nothing wrong with that. Everyone doesn’t need to rush into things, and everyone isn’t dating for marriage.

 

[Bumblebreh]

I hear conflicting opinions on this. Some people call it "running game" or chalk it up to the "game".

Other people think you gotta be honest through and through and be righteous with these hoes. If you got a woman, let them know. If you broke, let them know etc

Some dudes are willing to lie about every aspect of their life for the p*ssy.

In the past I've told women I got feelings for them or have interest in a relationship just to get the p*ssy when in reality if I was honest with myself, I know I didn't. I can see now that I was thoroughly dishonest and I should do better. At the same time, some of these skeezers (not upstanding women) don't really deserve anything better than getting shytted on and lied to because they treat others that way and they are maniacally egotistical and need to be humbled. I still have a hard time doing ALL THAT though, but theres always some dude willing to dog them out and ghost them

Thoughts?

Where on the honesty/lie scale do you fall with regards to this?

If you have to lie or manipulate your way into the bedroom, you are a scumbag.

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

I hear conflicting opinions on this. Some people call it "running game" or chalk it up to the "game".

Other people think you gotta be honest through and through and be righteous with these hoes. If you got a woman, let them know. If you broke, let them know etc

Some dudes are willing to lie about every aspect of their life for the p*ssy.

In the past I've told women I got feelings for them or have interest in a relationship just to get the p*ssy when in reality if I was honest with myself, I know I didn't. I can see now that I was thoroughly dishonest and I should do better. At the same time, some of these skeezers (not upstanding women) don't really deserve anything better than getting shytted on and lied to because they treat others that way and they are maniacally egotistical and need to be humbled. I still have a hard time doing ALL THAT though, but theres always some dude willing to dog them out and ghost them

Thoughts?

Where on the honesty/lie scale do you fall with regards to this?

everyone lies.....everyone

anybody that tells you they have never lied...is lying and definitely cant be trusted

i have lied to women before....mainly when i was juggling women...making excuses to disappear...shyt like that....
never pretended i liked one to get sex though...theres no reason to....theres always one somewhere that will like you...so why bother....

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

Get OFF that nice guy shyt.

You think women give a fukk when they use y’all for dinner dates knowing they’ll NEVER see you again or give you sex and then ghost y’all?

women lie all the time....truth