is it fair to say that hiphops greatest overachievers are these culprits :

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I let you have the first two on that list. Even though I’ve enjoyed some of Futures stuff over the years I understand that hating his music… or anything played at a function is part of the backpacker aesthetic. You crossed the line with the jigga disrespect though

not direspecting bro. its a compliment, Jay is bigger than movie stars he is bigger than 2pac.

yet dudes skill set is C+ he could afford promo and better beats. you know its pay to play he was a major backstage brown paper bag mover.
 

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Nas
2pac
biggie
mase
raekwon
prodigy
camron
styles p
jadakiss
beanie sigel
tragedy khadafi
shyne poe
norega
capone
havoc
LL
Az
ghost
big pun
oschino sparks

dude would get clapped in any arena, i am missing names too ... Jay got by image (he was always boring and monotone for the time) when competition got gone and more cross-overs started he staid in that mainstream lane while pushing a street fabricated street image.

he has a C+ pen game :hubie:

You know u seen it all on the coli when some one says Shyne is better than Jay Z :russ:
 

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So, this just a hate thread? :camby:

I don't like Future, fr, but, dude's audience is undeniable.

whats that got to do with skills?

his overachieved because in any rap cipher ... he would be chased off the scene. utter garbage!
 

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whats that got to do with skills?

his overachieved because in any rap cipher ... he would be chased off the scene. utter garbage!

There comes a time and place where you turn off/on certain ears..

I'm not listening to future and expecting grand puba vibes..it would be idiotic of me to do so..

For what lane he is in, he has made classic music..

I understand that the hip hop you/I might prefer has disappeared from the main or even mid stream, but other genres within the culture have had their moments..even drill😞
 

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Fat Joe, Tyga, French Montana and Fivio Foreign

dope choices throw in TI and thats the perfect overachieving hand of death lol.

There comes a time and place where you turn off/on certain ears..

I'm not listening to future and expecting grand puba vibes..it would be idiotic of me to do so..

For what lane he is in, he has made classic music..

I understand that the hip hop you/I might prefer has disappeared from the main or even mid stream, but other genres within the culture have had their moments..even drill😞
since when did being able to rap in a cypher mean that your music is good?

I bet 8 mile is your favorite movie :mjlol:

its not about music its about skills this so called "music" is who can attract the best producers and in futures case "song writers".

these guys have no acapella skills, they need a fancy beat hook even Jay needs a fancy beat and hook ... i stand with the OP those 3 earnt millions and millions!

when JD even toasted Jay on "money aint a thing" ... listen with your ears and not another mans ears or music journalist ears, have integrity.

kendrick is overachieved too, especially J Cole too! Asap Rocky is toilet water! ... you get the point these guys lyrics dont hold any jewels. hiphop took Ls with these guys.
 
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