Is it a shame that blacks don't listen to or have a historical appreciation of jazz and blues?

[daze23]

the funny thing about basquiat is that the hip hop heads in the 80s that knew him didnt seem to respect him much. i remember reading rammellzee's interviews and dude seemed to kinda despise him.

I think they had some kind of beef at some point. I know Basquiat did the art for Beat Bop

edit: ^^^ and there it is. I was thinking it probably had something to do with rammel calling him a sellout

 

[Camammal]

This is why i go hard for Flying Lotus, dude has revolutionized his own version of hip/hop/jazz/experimental...as he gets more and more popular the more i

 

[Propaganda]

while i can appreciate the musicianship and skill of the genre, i've never been able to get into jazz as a whole. i mean, there is some cool shyt here and there, there's a few sub-genres i enjoy but overall...i guess i just don't dig it.
one of the most puzzling things (not just in jazz but music in general) is the "free" jazz type of shyt. that is COMPLETELY lost on me. the odd (and often ever-changing) time signatures, the total disregard for cohesive chord progressions and rhythms, no structure at all, etc...to me, it ends up sounding like the everyone in the band is playing a different song at the same time. just has me going

but the blues...oh man. i'm definitely a fan. no hipster but my favorite stuff is the old, old shyt. i'm talking like 1920-1940s shyt...that early delta slide guitar shyt. those guys weren't incredible singers, they didn't have big range or great tone or anything and most of the time it was just them and their guitar but goddamn...they will make you feel something. they've been through some shyt and as soon as you hear their voices, you'll know it.

 

[Francis White]

Or are these simply dead musical genres that it is okay to forget about?

Can anything be gained by increasing listenership or teaching African-American children about this music or it's history? Or is this basically a waste of time and there are more important issues to worry about?

Not one damn thing can be gained, music is music, everyone has taste in whatever genre you like, but this makes no damn sense, i would say getting an education, learning about finances trumps, teaching jazz to blacks.

 

[daze23]

while i can appreciate the musicianship and skill of the genre, i've never been able to get into jazz as a whole. i mean, there is some cool shyt here and there, there's a few sub-genres i enjoy but overall...i guess i just don't dig it.
one of the most puzzling things (not just in jazz but music in general) is the "free" jazz type of shyt. that is COMPLETELY lost on me. the odd (and often ever-changing) time signatures, the total disregard for cohesive chord progressions and rhythms, no structure at all, etc...to me, it ends up sounding like the everyone in the band is playing a different song at the same time. just has me going

but the blues...oh man. i'm definitely a fan. no hipster but my favorite stuff is the old, old shyt. i'm talking like 1920-1940s shyt...that early delta slide guitar shyt. those guys weren't incredible singers, they didn't have big range or great tone or anything and most of the time it was just them and their guitar but goddamn...they will make you feel something. they've been through some shyt and as soon as you hear their voices, you'll know it.

a lot of people feel that way about Jazz. I remember my grandmother (RIP) said she could understand Hip-Hop better than Jazz

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

What is your definition of "blacks", breh?

 

[cleanface coney]

my pops play jazz in the crib all the time

 

[Depreciating Asset]

What is your definition of "blacks", breh?

Yeah. Fair point. Should have said 'the majority of African Americans' or something like that.

 

[YouMadd?]

I love Jazz...But you can't expect most people 30 an under to appreciate the genius behind Thelonius Monk, Bobby Hutcherson, Idris Muhammed, Grover Washington Jr., Roy Ayers, Bob James, Boney James, Jaco Pastorius, Weather Report, Sarah Vaughn etc. etc.

It takes a certain ear to sit down and really appreciate some shyt...

I think you have to introduce people to Jazz singers first and it becomes easier to appreciate the music...

Hearing someone sing "Nature Boy" makes it easier to appreciate someone's musical rendition of the song, and then eventually you can appreciate other Jazz cuts that have no vocals....

 

[DEAD7]

Or are these simply dead musical genres that it is okay to forget about?

Can anything be gained by increasing listenership or teaching African-American children about this music or it's history? Or is this basically a waste of time and there are more important issues to worry about?

Nothing shameful about it. Music is completely subjective, and one could say its a shame [insert genre] isn't appreciated by [insert demographic] all day, its really just the nature of art.

 

[frush11]

They at least know about Lep Zepplin, and groups like Queen. .

No they don't