Is ignorance REALLY bliss? Examples... I'm not so sure...

[BillCosbyAteMyHomework]

That's because of the perversion of society. An adult can't show the least bit of interest in a non famial child without because accused of something perverse.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

That's a bullshyt cliché.

it is a saying about taking responsibility for your actions...how is it a cliche?

 

[Danny Up]

The point I was making was if I'm 5 years old, what difference does it matter what my body is? The only problems would occur when I wanted to do things five year old do, like go outside and play with other kids, play in dirt etc. But I would be seen as a deviant and become aware of how different I am and I wouldn't be so blissful, I'd be miserable.

 

[Danny Up]

it is a saying about taking responsibility for your actions...how is it a cliche?

If you knew better, you'd do better is a cliché. It's not about accepting responsibility for shyt. It's actually a copout if you think about it.

 

[tru_m.a.c]

If you knew better, you'd do better is a cliché. It's not about accepting responsibility for shyt. It's actually a copout if you think about it.

how

 

[Danny Up]

how

Because some people actually do know better and continue to do dumbshyt or not amount to shyt. They are fully aware. Also it also over simplifies things. Everybody can't be a success. You can do everything right and still end up fukked up in life.

 

[IronFist]

spoke on this along time ago elsewhere. I for one do not find ignorance to be blissful. In fact I find it to be completely contradictory of that.Ignorance and a lack of willingness to educate one's self has been the direct cause of the current state of the human world. It's because of that ignorance and desire to ignore reality, that allows a hand full of people to herd seven billion people like a livestock herd.

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

"Ignorance is bliss" is basically the motto of those who are against education and want to have people follow them like sheep.

I think that's when it's taken for the wrong meaning. Education is important but sadly, the more you learn the more you see how fukked up this world is. shyt is a heavy burden too. Because once you know, and once you're educated about it, you have a responsibility to DO something about it. And that's the depressing part.

I'm glad I have the knowledge I have but I am saddened because I also know most of it doesn't even matter. How can I, with a straight face, go recruit and tell a 30 year old assembly worker to keep working hard and the company will appreciate him when I know in my heart that's not true and the company doesn't give a fukk. He has no hope, but I gotta tell him something right?

Just look at how carefree little kids are for the most part. They don't know a gotdamn thing and they happy as all hell most of the time.

This is the true essense of the quote. This is why many successful people adopt mindfulness, meditation, and living in the present. Because that's how kids role, they're not worried about all the shyt that consumes adults.

 

[Easy-E]

In my experiences, the ones who are truly happy and blissful are the same ones who are completely oblivious about the world around them.

It's hard to be so unabashedly happy about life in general when you know how the world really works.

Thinking my parents had the best relationship, in both sides of my family >>> Learning that their marriage, more than likely, was doomed from the start

Ignorance Is Bliss, but, it doesn't make for progess and maturity.

The truth pill is still the most healthy. But, the fact that; during your highest high;

You get that promotion, at work. On your way home you find $100 on the ground and you see the guy that dropped it. You try to give it to him. He declines and asks you to keep it. He appreciates your honesty, invites you to his house party--he's a billionaire business owner from across your job. You go and chop it up and you make a big connection, your first day of being promoted. He introduces you to his single daughter, a Melyssa Ford (no breast implants) lookalike with a heart of gold (you learn after a convo with her & you get the date).

Whatever...no matter how great a day your having. 10 blocks away, someone is starving, someone is being abused, someone is out of their mind, etc.

The fact is "Ignorance Is Bliss" is just the human condition.

The fact any of us are able to be "normal" is fact to it. Either that or we're all sociopaths who couldn't care less about the world's suffering.

 

[nineteeneightysix]

Hmmm.... I was raised in a very Christian family, and I actually find comfort in the fact that I can question everything that I was ever taught. I was able to let go of what was ingrained, and really think for myself and appreciate others opinions, beliefs, etc, even if I don't share the same. To me, it's a very liberating feeling. Like you, unfortunately, my family and some friends don't agree with this, so we clearly will never see eye to eye. Don't lose the passion... embrace your knowledge. You obviously did it for a reason

I wasn't just "raised in a very Christian family"...To be fair, my parents were "Sunday is church day" religious, but the rest of the week, they were half-way Christian...

From a young age, I started reading The Bible, and actually started reasoning and trying to follow The Commandments as best as I understood them...My Christianity wasn't just "something in the family," it was a personal choice I made for myself from an early age...

It was THE basis of my moral and ethical being...The Bible was my point of reference...

Then scientific knowledge and reasoning came and crushed the buildings...I was devastated...I fell in a very deep depression that I will never come out of...

My life was better when I was a Christian...I was more sociable, had more charisma, I made friends easily, because I was selfless, but never pushed my beliefs on anybody...I had HOPE...

Now that I know, I will probably, just die and turn into Carbon, Hydrogen, Oxygen and food for other organisms...Life has no meaning...

In my profession, I have seen people die, in their old age, a few times...It's not like in the movies...There are no final words of wisdom or dramatic music playing in the background...

It's bleak...

"Knowledge Is Sorrow" has been my experience...

 

[BillCosbyAteMyHomework]

That's a unique perspective from my eyes. It's not the way I see things- I'm hopeful and optimistic no matter what this life turns in to (food for bugs)- I've chosen my paths carefully and sometimes not so much, and enjoy the ups and learn from the downs.

I really appreciate your point though. I lost my best friend (my Grandpa), a year ago. He was a man of God to the core. He lived, breathed, ate and slept the word of the bible. I watched him die (old age, heart stuff), and for this past year, felt like he hadn't lived a full life. I felt like he hadn't even come close to experiencing the things I have, or seen places I have. That made me pity him in a sense. Long story short, you make me believe that he truly was happy to die. He said it many times. He really believed that he was going somewhere better. That brings peace to me more than you know.

I hope you find yours too

Edit: I also want to clarify that I don't expect a notebook ending in life. I just want to be happy with the now

 

[BillCosbyAteMyHomework]

And at whoever rated my thread one star.

 

[mbewane]

I think that's when it's taken for the wrong meaning. Education is important but sadly, the more you learn the more you see how fukked up this world is. shyt is a heavy burden too. Because once you know, and once you're educated about it, you have a responsibility to DO something about it. And that's the depressing part.

I'm glad I have the knowledge I have but I am saddened because I also know most of it doesn't even matter. How can I, with a straight face, go recruit and tell a 30 year old assembly worker to keep working hard and the company will appreciate him when I know in my heart that's not true and the company doesn't give a fukk. He has no hope, but I gotta tell him something right?
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This is true to an extent, because that knowledge (including "knowledge of self", culture, not only what you get force-fed at school) allows you to have a different look at life and at your priorities. Doing something might just be trying to find a better way for YOURSELF, and it's not always THAT hard: instead of watching bs on tv after a day's work, grab a book, go to a museum, try to paint. Anyone can do that, but too many of us choose to switch our brain off, and that leads to frustrations, depression and all that shyt. So two guys who work the same shytty job might have a very different opinion of their lives, if one spends the evening watching TV while the other uses that time THAT IS HIS to pursue some other interest, many of which don't even require that much investment. So you might change the world, but you might change yourself, and that's something.