Is Colin Powell a coward?

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Political cowardice and actual cowardice as a man are not necessarily the same thing. You can make a strong case that Powell lacked the former.
 

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Dude played his part like a good boy should ,he digust me for not having any nuts .dude should have resigned & told the American people the truth
 
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Dude played his part like a good boy should ,he digust me for not having any nuts .dude should have resigned & told the American people the truth

He was the general of an army...they don't do that. They submit to the final order of the commander in chief. You're not being realistic...
 

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He was the general of an army...they don't do that. They submit to the final order of the commander in chief. You're not being realistic...

Now you're just being an apologist. I didn't agree with calling his a coward period, but political cowardice definitely. He himself regrets not stepping down. He was not in his capacity as general of the army at the time anyway.
 
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Now you're just being an apologist. I didn't agree with calling his a coward period, but political cowardice definitely. He himself regrets not stepping down. He was not in his capacity as general of the army at the time anyway.

I think you guys are saying what should've happened, but I'm saying what DID happen, why I believe it did, and why I don't it as cowardice.
 
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I've had discussions with people who feel this way; most of them really militant in their black pride. Their reasoning being that Obama's father being Kenyan means that he does not have the same historical ties to black suffering that American blacks have as part of their shared experience; he was not raised by black people instead being raised by white people; he was not raised in or around black people having been brought up in Hawaii and Indonesia.
Their argument goes that his skin color may be the same but he has no clue about what it means to be a black man in America.

:whew:

I wonder would those same black people question Kobe Bryant's blackness because of his upbringing? This is more a socioeconomic argument than an argument about his racial background. Being black in America doesn't mean experiencing racism or struggling. But I'm sure Obama has experienced racism.

Obama is bi-racial and you touched on that. Ask yourself why do black people claim him as black? Usually they come up with one or two requirements and both reinforce white supremacy.
 

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I think leading american soldiers through wartime and enemy territory after serving himself as well by default makes it impossible for YOU or I to call that man, a COWARD

This is the same site where people call Floyd Mayweather/Manny Pac bytches and say they'd smack them in the face if they saw them in the streets.
 

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He played the role of a good soldier and took the fall for his commander in chief.

Only problem is he was not a soldier. He should have stood up to the Cheney and Rumsfeld but he didn't. The state department knew Iraq was a mistake and they knowingly set him up with the UN. Shame on Colin Powell. He lost a lot of credibility and his reputation was forever tarnished because of his refusal to stand up and tell Americans the truth.
 

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I've had discussions with people who feel this way; most of them really militant in their black pride. Their reasoning being that Obama's father being Kenyan means that he does not have the same historical ties to black suffering that American blacks have as part of their shared experience; he was not raised by black people instead being raised by white people; he was not raised in or around black people having been brought up in Hawaii and Indonesia.
Their argument goes that his skin color may be the same but he has no clue about what it means to be a black man in America.

Exactly...Obama is black by default....He was raised by whites and for the most part lived as a white boy with dark skin. He's not a c00n....he just did'nt really have those same values you and I have.
 
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Only problem is he was not a soldier. He should have stood up to the Cheney and Rumsfeld but he didn't. The state department knew Iraq was a mistake and they knowingly set him up with the UN. Shame on Colin Powell. He lost a lot of credibility and his reputation was forever tarnished because of his refusal to stand up and tell Americans the truth.

nikka was in the Army 40 years, he will ALWAYS be a soldier at heart.
 
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