Is Chris Rock Really This Stupid?

[theworldismine13]

Conveniently you continue to ignore the actual issue at hand, in favor of your out of control tangents. Rock didnt offer this endorsement in relation to any of the issues you've talked about --- and to invoke Bush into all of this is ridiculous. The specific issue here that Rock is in support of, has been completely drowned away by your self-righteous agenda.

That isn't the issue becuase nobody is saying he should or shouldn't support the president, it's the logic that he used that is the issue

 

[Type Username Here]

Conveniently you continue to ignore the actual issue at hand, in favor of your out of control tangents. Rock didnt offer this endorsement in relation to any of the issues you've talked about --- and to invoke Bush into all of this is ridiculous. The specific issue here that Rock is in support of, has been completely drowned away by your self-righteous agenda.

The actual issue at hand is this:

1) Rock makes asinine and hypocritical statement devoid of any understanding of how the Executive Branch operates. No one in here is discussing what the press conference's point was. That's not the point of the thread, as evident by the OP's submission.

2) You come in here trying to defend his hypocrisy and stupidity by trying to link the word "leader" with "boss" and "dad".

3) I point out that Rock didn't feel this way about any other President or Candidate.

4) You defend Rock by saying that Obama is more trustworthy of Bush and more "parent-like".

5) I show you that your argument about Obama's trustworthiness is flawed.

Now let's move on.

 

[wtfyomom]

No president should ever be considered a boss or a dad, that's a disgusting retarded thing to say no matter who says it

exactly. the whole appeal to emotions and wanting people to not actually think and just accept whatever "dad" or "boss" tells them is truly offensive. fukk Chris Rock for this garbage. He just went down a notch in my comedians list.

 

[Type Username Here]

That isn't the issue becuase nobody is saying he should or shouldn't support the president, it's the logic that he used that is the issue

exactly. the whole appeal to emotions and wanting people to not actually think and just accept whatever "dad" or "boss" tells them is truly offensive. fukk Chris Rock for this garbage. He just went down a notch in my comedians list.

Thank you.

The logic is absolutely faulty. It implied that I have to listen to Obama, or any President because of his job title ("Boss", "Dad"). If you follow Rock's argument to its logical conclusion, it also means we have to listen to Obama about other things as well.

 

[Shogun]

"significantly different"...lol. Sounds like an emotionally laden process aided you in that conclusion. The overarching idea is that we are subordinates, fam, which both satisfy. Slightly nuanced difference in word choice none withstanding .

John Locke is rolling in his grave

 

[No_bammer_weed]

That isn't the issue becuase nobody is saying he should or shouldn't support the president, it's the logic that he used that is the issue

Thats a complete cop out. You cant abstract away the fundamental issue at hand. Conclusions and rhetoric have a genealogy in its logical process...Obviously this issue is meaningful to Rock, and thats understandable and noble. if you guys are going to get all sanctimonious, then you have to respect Rock's positions on their own terms.

Boss, dad, leader, commander-in-chief --- nuanced differences, but relatable. You can call your dad a retard. You can have your boss fired. You can listen to all of them, and summarily dismiss them as well. He never suggested obedience.

 

[Serious]

doesn't see the big deal

*waits for michael savage to make another video about chris rocks comment*
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FgqUz7BS9Q"]Michael Savage Attacks Chris Rock and Exposes his Vile Racism at Obama's Birthday Party - (3/14/12) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[No_bammer_weed]

The actual issue at hand is this:

1) Rock makes asinine and hypocritical statement devoid of any understanding of how the Executive Branch operates. No one in here is discussing what the press conference's point was. That's not the point of the thread, as evident by the OP's submission.

2) You come in here trying to defend his hypocrisy and stupidity by trying to link the word "leader" with "boss" and "dad".

3) I point out that Rock didn't feel this way about any other President or Candidate.

4) You defend Rock by saying that Obama is more trustworthy of Bush and more "parent-like".

5) I show you that your argument about Obama's trustworthiness is flawed.

Now let's move on.

You're flailing away....now you are attempting to create and control the narrative. Of course the actual issue at hand is of little concern to you. Chris Rock was not attempting to shout down policy debate on any of the other issues you raised. The fact that Rock hasnt publicly insisted himself on any other issue in such a way, other than this one, makes your attempts in this thread disingenuous at best. Im appealing to reason, common sense, and maturity. I see its falling on deaf ears. You're right. Lets move on...

 

[chkmeout]

another dumbass fukking thread. "obama is my dad i should do as he says..."

yall some smucks

 

[No_bammer_weed]

John Locke is rolling in his grave

In what way?

And before you runaway with yourself here, mind you that Rock clearly stated that we "listen", with respect to their leadership role...he didnt suggest unquestioning obedience or adherence by the populous at large.

 

[Shogun]

In what way?

And before you runaway with yourself here, mind you that Rock clearly stated that we "listen", with respect to their leadership role...he didnt suggest unquestioning obedience or adherence by the populous at large.

I didn't even watch the video. I couldn't care any less about a comedian's political views. All I said was when dealing with government, the words "leader" and "boss" are significantly different.......because....they are......

 

[NovelThug]

his father, Julius Rock, was a former truck driver and newspaper deliveryman.[10] Julius died in 1988 after ulcer surgery.

Chris Rock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Chris' real daddy wasn't there for him. Always out there hustlin to make bread. Then, before Chris even became funny, his daddy upped and dieded on him. You can see why Barack is his new chosen daddy now, can't yous?

 

[theworldismine13]

Thats a complete cop out. You cant abstract away the fundamental issue at hand. Conclusions and rhetoric have a genealogy in its logical process...Obviously this issue is meaningful to Rock, and thats understandable and noble. if you guys are going to get all sanctimonious, then you have to respect Rock's positions on their own terms.

Boss, dad, leader, commander-in-chief --- nuanced differences, but relatable. You can call your dad a retard. You can have your boss fired. You can listen to all of them, and summarily dismiss them as well. He never suggested obedience.

what am i coping out of? i have taken no position on the actual issue of gun control and i have no idea on whether his position is understandable and noble and i dont really care whether this issue is meaningful to chris rock, if that makes it a cop out, then i agree im coping out

but i think the logic he used is what the problem is, i respect his freedom to have his opinion on the subject but i dont have to respect his logic, and no i dont have to respect his terms, i dont know why you would think that

and yeah its definitely a semantic argument because different words referring to a person in charge have different connotations to it, and i disagree with the connotation of 'dad' and 'boss', you are the one that is actually copping out by ignoring the connotations, boss and dad does connotate obedience thats exactly why we object to it

other words for person's in charge are king, master, dictator, those types of words are not appropriate in referring to a president in a democracy or in making an argument pro or con

 

[Dada]

He doesn't grasp things on even a basic level. American Civics 101 would do wonders.

 

[Jerz-2]

Listen you c*nt...