Is #BlackLivesMatter Leading Nowhere?

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Is this referencing black wall street? If so I think that's a poor and dangerous way to frame that event. BWS was a community of business owners who had their shops destroyed from riled up racist rioters. But let's not give it the notion that BWS was black america's official denied attempt at economic empowerment/group economics, that's way too much hindsight and romanticizing.

Repeating that event in 2017 would be much harder, less financially damaging (insurance/electronic funds and POS) and way more publicized. Pardon my insensitivity for the violence but if that shyt happened today it could probably end being the shock we need to take group economics seriously and unify.


But then again folks would most likely be writing thinkpieces like "If straight black men weren't so homophobic sexist and EVIL the racists wouldn't have burned down everything"

Anyway I peep your alternatives you posted. I feel like reading, got any links on what they're doing?

Well there were multiple economic enclaves for Blacks during those times out of sheer necessity.

It goes back to the integration/segregation argument.

From what I've read and seen, SA post-apartheid has a monied class of Black folks who operate much like our "boule" class meaning they patron White establishments, bed Whites and promote their interest in governmental affairs.

We have to be real with ourselves. The reason AAs can't have autonomy in America boils down to us being a minority in a country where White folks decide how much currency is printed, they can tax whatever they want, and they have eminent domain over all land. Its rigged.

You don't get all of the wacked out LGBTQ BLM stuff in Black countries because they aren't living side by side with other races to nearly the extent and thus not being exposed to nonsense. We get it the worst because we are at ground 0 for White supremacy and we don't have numbers.

Ethiopia for example is

building factories to become the next textile hub Indonesian textile industry facing competition from Ethiopia

building railways all over East Africa Railway development in Ethiopia

and its all owned by the government/nationalized so you don't have indians and whites holding 90% of the wealth like in SA
 

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They have a numbers advantage so militant rhetoric is easier to propagate without repercussions.

It's just hard to see SA get their version of reparations/economic redistribution. They bow down to an Indian family and cacs.

Let's be honest, Black Americans tried the economic approach and were brutalized for it.

I like what Ethiopia, Senegal, Ivory Coast, Ghana, Tanzania were doing last I checked in terms of building infrastructure.

At the end of the day Smart Business trumps all. I’m a doer not talker (so all the protest at this point are just wastes of tome), my thing is if we are going to talk at least say something worth something and follow up, which is what the EFF is imo doing (henece me using them as an example).

Lets be real, in America we have very little doers. The US passport is the most powerful passport in the world. We could literally be making moves on every continent from a business perspective but we dont. Of course we lack the capital to set up shop in random countries and start fourtune

I’m not here to say the answer but eventually a conversation will need to be has about where Blacks in america will stand in a Post White supremacy world. I’m not AA so Certain thing arent for me to answer but at the end of the day some people need to ask themselves how do they plan on surving in a world that may be controlled by “Asian Supremacy”, not to say Asians will subject us to the same system that whites have but more a general “we were on the bottom the last 500 yrs, will we be on the bottom the next?”

Alot of stuff Im simply not going to discuss on this site, I’m just saying cats need to be thinking.
 

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At the end of the day Smart Business trumps all. I’m a doer not talker (so all the protest at this point are just wastes of tome), my thing is if we are going to talk at least say something worth something and follow up, which is what the EFF is imo doing (henece me using them as an example).

Lets be real, in America we have very little doers. The US passport is the most powerful passport in the world. We could literally be making moves on every continent from a business perspective but we dont. Of course we lack the capital to set up shop in random countries and start fourtune

I’m not here to say the answer but eventually a conversation will need to be has about where Blacks in america will stand in a Post White supremacy world. I’m not AA so Certain thing arent for me to answer but at the end of the day some people need to ask themselves how do they plan on surving in a world that may be controlled by “Asian Supremacy”, not to say Asians will subject us to the same system that whites have but more a general “we were on the bottom the last 500 yrs, will we be on the bottom the next?”

Alot of stuff Im simply not going to discuss on this site, I’m just saying cats need to be thinking.

I think you're overestimating the power of Black America. Whites have mechanisms here whether that be eminent domain, the federal reserve, predatory banking, or sheer raw population numbers that make some sort of Black society with Black-owned infrastructure in the States a pipe dream.

The best thing Black folks can do to withstand the tide is support one another in America and hope one of the Black countries can emerge as a world power and wisely invest in the diaspora.

I see more AAs traveling to Black countries and making connections with diaspora so it is a start.

I've always posited that any real change has to come from Africa. Thats where the bulk of Black people are, the resources, the land, and the potential to build nationalized/Black owned infrastructure.

Problem with SA is that most of the infrastructure built there was under the direction of Whites and Asians. You still have a huge issue of redistributing all of that wealth.

Anyone who wants to read my vision of the type of multi-faceted action its going to take to get Black folks out of this jam can read here: Black Diasporic Essentials For "Liberation"
 

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I think you're overestimating the power of Black America. Whites have mechanisms here whether that be eminent domain, the federal reserve, predatory banking, or sheer raw population numbers that make some sort of Black society with Black-owned infrastructure in the States a pipe dream.

The best thing Black folks can do to withstand the tide is support one another in America and hope one of the Black countries can emerge as a world power and wisely invest in the diaspora.

I see more AAs traveling to Black countries and making connections with diaspora so it is a start.

I've always posited that any real change has to come from Africa. Thats where the bulk of Black people are, the resources, the land, and the potential to build nationalized/Black owned infrastructure.

Problem with SA is that most of the infrastructure built there was under the direction of Whites and Asians. You still have a huge issue of redistributing all of that wealth.

Anyone who wants to read my vision of the type of multi-faceted action its going to take to get Black folks out of this jam can read here: Black Diasporic Essentials For "Liberation"

Nah I honestly feel Black america is powerless hence my stance on “what do cats have planed if America falls”. White supremacy in america has tried to make Black americans so dependent on it that the end of it could mean the end of black americans
 

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Nah I honestly feel Black america is powerless hence my stance on “what do cats have planed if America falls”. White supremacy in america has tried to make Black americans so dependent on it that the end of it could mean the end of black americans

Don't disagree.

Its up to Africa to give us an alternative:yeshrug:
 

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Don't disagree.

Its up to Africa to give us an alternative:yeshrug:

I agree. I do feel we as Americans can be somewhat proactive in taking advantages of Business opportunities abroad. Yeah we cant do it in the numbers that say Indians do but much of Africa is so underveloped to the point where you can strike gold providing something basic vs trying to become a millionaire in the states trying to take advantage of the App Start up bubble (that will burst eventually).
 

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I can understand the pessimism LordCashmere... barring a miracle or game changer we AA's are probably toast. We being the permanent bottom racial class is in the foundation of this country and core of "American" identity. So we can't take another generation or few decades of hits like this. Whites are never gonna let up because their narcissistic socio-psychopathic sadists.




Thankfully we have a game changer coming.. and it's the one and only thing we've really needed. The only thing I can see that gets us out. The USA being completely destroyed. :WWar3:




Yeah a percent won't make it.. but we didn't get into this situation nice, neat, and bloodless.


But I'm confident and hopeful for the future for us. We've survived some hardcore horror sorrow...

I think when more of our people realize the usa's time is up. And that the ghouls will nolonger have power to destroy us. Then that spirit in us will reignite.



And our place in the world after? The world is going to go to shyt for at least 10-30yrs since the west will have lost it's military. And any country after isn't gonna project power globally..
 

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I can understand the pessimism LordCashmere... barring a miracle or game changer we AA's are probably toast. We being the permanent bottom racial class is in the foundation of this country and core of "American" identity. So we can't take another generation or few decades of hits like this. Whites are never gonna let up because their narcissistic socio-psychopathic sadists.




Thankfully we have a game changer coming.. and it's the one and only thing we've really needed. The only thing I can see that gets us out. The USA being completely destroyed. :WWar3:




Yeah a percent won't make it.. but we didn't get into this situation nice, neat, and bloodless.


But I'm confident and hopeful for the future for us. We've survived some hardcore horror sorrow...

I think when more of our people realize the usa's time is up. And that the ghouls will nolonger have power to destroy us. Then that spirit in us will reignite.



And our place in the world after? The world is going to go to shyt for at least 10-30yrs since the west will have lost it's military. And any country after isn't gonna project power globally..

Like i said certain things I wont speak of but for black people in america and in particular AAs if whatever happens to America happens will you all be the servents of a new master or parish being that integration lead to AAs having to be dependent on white supremacy being successful in order to even have a place to live (in masse, of course AAs can move where ever they want but not in a mass exodus, being that there simply isnt a nation that could sustain everyone more would it be feasible).

The Dilemma Africa faces would more so be related to if they will be servents of a new master due to them at least being on a land mass where blacks are the majority, but in the states this isnt the case hence many may parish with the system.
 

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Who? What?


You got a link to a story/article or something?




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:dead: OHH shyt!!! I always saw Ocky retweeting that account.
 
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