Is al Horford a HOF? Is Jrue Holiday a HOF?

[ISO]

Jrue has more accomplishments than Horford if you count the career totals.

Horford may have scored more points, but Jrue been a more impactful player. He was just stuck on serious teams for most of his 20s.

Nah, Horford edges him in impact his career box plus minus, win shares, value over replacement, player efficiency rating all higher.

2 nattys and an NBA chip, competed in the playoffs in 15 of his 17 seasons.

More All-Star appearances and the lone All-NBA team among them.

To me to be in the HOF you need 5x All-Star minimum.

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Ben Wallace is in the HOF.

 

[mastermind]

Nah, Horford edges him in impact his career box plus minus, win shares, value over replacement, player efficiency rating all higher.

2 nattys and an NBA chip, competed in the playoffs in 15 of his 17 seasons.

More All-Star appearances and the lone All-NBA team among them.

To me to be in the HOF you need 5x All-Star minimum.

there are a lot of players that don't have 5 all star game appearances in the HOF that no one debates, tbf.

A guy like Bobby Jones just misses out but he is one of the greatest defensive players ever.

Also big men tend to get more advanced figures over small guards. I just don't think Horford was a better NBA player.

And I think Horford was fortunate to be on better teams most of his career than Jrue. A lot of that is because Horford is a damn good player, but Holiday was fukked over a lot in his career.

 

[Black Ball]

The NBA HOF trash as fukk if this is a consideration.

There is no NBA HOF. That's the problem. High School coaches are in the Basketball HOF. NBA been needed it's own HOF.