Is A Death Wish Remake A Good Idea?

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Won't be any different to a movie like John Wick or Liam Neeson's recent run of vigilante movies :usure:
 

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@MartyMcFly i get what youre saying breh. But is deathwish all that different than john wick?:sas2:

Here's the difference: John Wick is set up in a stylized world and he's not a vigilante. He's a gun for hire in this stylized world of other assassins. Death Wish is specifically about urban decay and how minorities and lowlives needed to be eradicated by a white guy with a gun
 

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AV Club probably said it better than I did:

As The A.V. Club’s Vadim Rizov pointed out in his Run The Series feature, the Death Wish movies start off unpleasant, and end up downright icky. Like it or not, it’s not the ’70s anymore, and rebooting a trigger-happy cultural relic like this one is a delicate prospect. What MGM and Paramount need is someone with a subtle touch, someone who can turn a critical eye to the lone-wolf vigilantism, regressive racial and sexual politics, and fascist morality of Charles Bronson’s mild-mannered architect-turned-one-man army Paul Kersey, providing meta-commentary on the state of American masculinity as a result. Or they could just hire Eli Roth.
 

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Here's the difference: John Wick is set up in a stylized world and he's not a vigilante. He's a gun for hire in this stylized world of other assassins. Death Wish is specifically about urban decay and how minorities and lowlives needed to be eradicated by a white guy with a gun
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Keyword: remake, so no, it's never a good idea.

In terms of the context of the material, most US citizens are still (aggressively) supporting the Second Amendment and many gun/NRA nuts who seem to genuinely believe that any of these big tragedies could've been prevented if some of the victims had been carrying guns on them. Death Wish doesn't speak to you or me, it speaks to them, it's fantasy fulfillment of the idea that they are modern cowboys protecting their loved ones from "bad" people.

So basically the movie today would speak to the same people it would speak to in the 70s, and they would be completely fine with it, defend it even, no matter if the movie turned out to be as racist and right wing as the OG. This is after all the US where Trump could cakewalk to the Republican nomination talking shyt about Hispanics and Muslims.

All which goes back to the point, no, it's not a good idea. Those ideas shouldn't be entertained but those ideas are very much alive in the US as it is so you can't stop it either way. All you can hope for is that the movie is such insignificant trash that it does absolutely nothing, so in that regard I think Eli Roth is the perfect pick.
 

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The movie was basically remade twice the past decade with Death Sentence and The Brave One.

But lIke the article said with the right person donig it can be done right. The movie can't be too PC but at the same time not too over the top that it turns into an all out action movie.

If Eli Roth is directing the movie you can throw the nuance and deep social commentary out the window... the guy makes frat boy horror movies and he's a Tarantino minion so I won't be surprised if he intentionally tries to offend ppl and/or make it controversial.

The closest Eli Roth ever came to social commentary was The Green Inferno... and that hillbilly joke/scene in Cabin Fever "That's for the n-ggers."
 

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The movie was basically remade twice the past decade with Death Sentence and The Brave One.

But lIke the article said with the right person donig it can be done right. The movie can't be too PC but at the same time not too over the top that it turns into an all out action movie.

If Eli Roth is directing the movie you can throw the nuance and deep social commentary out the window... the guy makes frat boy horror movies and he's a Tarantino minion so I won't be surprised if he intentionally tries to offend ppl and/or make it controversial.

The closest Eli Roth ever came to social commentary was The Green Inferno... and that hillbilly joke/scene in Cabin Fever "That's for the n-ggers."

Which is why I had more faith with the previous directors.
 

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And I'm no Eli Roth hater... i actually enjoy most of his movies for the BS that they are. but he's about as deep as spot of spit on concrete when it comes to social commentary'.

He tried to throw some sort of commentary on Hostel regarding women being viewable objects but who's going to pay attention to all that when you have fine ass Eastern European women getting naked and kids bashing skulls in for candy. LOL
 
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