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They also have the option of NOT doing that. So you basically proved this isn’t bullshyt.
I proved that it is and it isn’t bullshyt. It’s whatever narrative you want to believe. If you think it’s plausible despite a total lack of evidence that Venezuela or Iran would dare plan any kind of event that is detrimental to the actual security of regular people, then of course any cooperation between them would seem nefarious. When all you have us a hammer, everything seems like a nail.

Iran is trying to kill dissidents in America the way Saudi Arabia kills American dissidents in Turkey. Not much to see here in my opinion. Maybe if you gave more context to your stories before you tagged me I wouldn’t call you an idiot so reflexively. But truly, this is an idiotic thing to be talking about in the midst of a global pandemic and seemingly apocalyptic climate crisis, not to mention the global financial crisis we are in the midst of.

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I proved that it is and it isn’t bullshyt. It’s whatever narrative you want to believe. If you think it’s plausible despite a total lack of evidence that Venezuela or Iran would dare plan any kind of event that is detrimental to the actual security of regular people, then of course any cooperation between them would seem nefarious. When all you have us a hammer, everything seems like a nail.

Iran is trying to kill dissidents in America the way Saudi Arabia kills American dissidents in Turkey. Not much to see here in my opinion. Maybe if you gave more context to your stories before you tagged me I wouldn’t call you an idiot so reflexively. But truly, this is an idiotic thing to be talking about in the midst of a global pandemic and seemingly apocalyptic climate crisis, not to mention the global financial crisis we are in the midst of.

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So the other examples of their luring two dissidents in the last decade back to Iran to either execute or imprison them wasn't enough, but them openly plotting a third kidnapping is a bridge too far?
 

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Spanish Court Agrees to Extradite Former Venezuela Spy Chief to U.S.
Raphael Minder
5-7 minutes
Hugo Carvajal, once a prominent figure in the government of the Venezuelan leader Nicolás Maduro, faces drug-trafficking charges in the United States.

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Credit...Pool photo by Emilio Naranjo
Oct. 20, 2021

MADRID — Spain’s highest criminal court agreed on Wednesday to extradite Venezuela’s former intelligence chief, Hugo Carvajal, to the United States, where he faces drug trafficking charges, according to a court statement.

The National Court’s decision came after Mr. Carvajal was denied asylum in Spain. A court official said he cannot appeal the extradition order and could be sent to the United States at any time.

The ruling came just four days after the extradition to the United States of a key ally of the Venezuelan leader, Nicolás Maduro. Alex Saab, a Colombian businessman known as Mr. Maduro’s financial fixer, had been arrested in Cape Verde, an island nation off the coast of West Africa, on American charges of money laundering.

Mr. Maduro retaliated for the Saab extradition, calling off talks with the opposition and jailing six executives of the Houston-based company Citgo Petroleum, who have been detained in Venezuela since 2017 and had been under house arrest. The events dealt a blow to the Biden administration’s hopes that it could ease tensions with Venezuela, and that negotiations between Mr. Maduro and his opponents would lead to free and fair elections.

Living conditions in Venezuela have deteriorated sharply in recent years, worsened by corruption and a U.S. trade embargo, with poverty, disease and violence now rampant. Human rights investigators say the leftist government has grown increasingly repressive.

Spain has become one of the main safe havens for members of the Venezuelan opposition and defecting members of the Socialist Party who have fled the political and economic turmoil.

Mr. Carvajal was arrested in Madrid in September for the second time in less than three years. The police said at the time that he had been living “fully shut-in” at an undisclosed location in Madrid, relying on the help of allies who were not identified.

Mr. Carvajal was a prominent figure in the government of Mr. Maduro before breaking with him in dramatic fashion. He released a video in February 2019 that accused Mr. Maduro of running a corrupt dictatorship whose top officials were engaged in drug trafficking.

Both he and Mr. Saab have knowledge and information that could prove damaging to Mr. Maduro and his allies.

Mr. Carvajal was first detained on the American extradition request in April 2019 after he fled to Spain. But he was then released from a Spanish prison after a court deemed the extradition request to be too “abstract” to establish his involvement in drug trafficking.

Prosecutors successfully appealed the ruling, but Mr. Carvajal went missing, creating a diplomatic headache for Spain and adding another twist in a long cat-and-mouse game.

In a February 2019 interview with The New York Times, Mr. Carvajal denied that he was involved in drug trafficking. After his detention in Spain and during his extradition hearing, he and his lawyers claimed that the drug charges had been fabricated, and that the case brought by the United States was politically motivated.

The United States Justice Department has said that in April 2006, Mr. Carvajal coordinated the transportation of about six U.S. tons of cocaine to Mexico from Venezuela, according to charges filed in federal court in New York. If convicted, he would face a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years in prison and a maximum sentence of life.

Known by the nickname “El Pollo,” or “The Chicken,” Mr. Carvajal served for several years as the military intelligence chief under Hugo Chávez, the former leader of Venezuela, and under Mr. Maduro. Later, he was a lawmaker in the governing Socialist Party before his abrupt falling-out with Mr. Maduro, Mr. Chávez’s successor.

Mr. Carvajal urged the military to side with Mr. Maduro’s main opponent, Juan Guaidó. Mr. Guaidó was recognized as Venezuela’s legitimate president by the United States and several other Western governments, but that has not prevented Mr. Maduro from holding onto power, even as his country’s economic problems have spiraled in recent years.

Though Mr. Carvajal cannot appeal the extradition ruling directly, he could try to remain in Spain by appealing the decision to deny him asylum, said Martín Palladino, a Spanish lawyer who specializes in extradition issues.

Since his arrest last month, Mr. Carvajal has also offered to cooperate with an investigation by Spain’s judiciary, claiming to have information that Venezuela helped fund Spain’s leftist Unidas Podemos party, a coalition partner in the government. Earlier this week, a Spanish judge set a hearing for Mr. Carvajal on Oct. 27 to testify on the matter.

Unidas Podemos has denied wrongdoing and the party’s spokesman, Pablo Echenique, accused Mr. Carvajal of offering to contribute “rubbish from the gutter.”

Raphael Minder covers Spain and Portugal, based in Madrid. He previously worked for Bloomberg News in Switzerland and for the Financial Times in Paris, Brussels, Sydney and finally Hong Kong. @RaphaelMinder

A version of this article appears in print on Oct. 21, 2021, Section A, Page 10 of the New York edition with the headline: Spain Agrees to Extradite Ex-Venezuela Spy Chief. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe
 

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nytimes.com
Spanish Court Agrees to Extradite Former Venezuela Spy Chief to U.S.
Raphael Minder
5-7 minutes
Hugo Carvajal, once a prominent figure in the government of the Venezuelan leader Nicolás Maduro, faces drug-trafficking charges in the United States.

merlin_196544913_5f7e8cc5-b9ab-41c6-9fd0-417b7a404c07-articleLarge.jpg

merlin_196544913_5f7e8cc5-b9ab-41c6-9fd0-417b7a404c07-articleLarge.jpg

Credit...Pool photo by Emilio Naranjo
Oct. 20, 2021

MADRID — Spain’s highest criminal court agreed on Wednesday to extradite Venezuela’s former intelligence chief, Hugo Carvajal, to the United States, where he faces drug trafficking charges, according to a court statement.

The National Court’s decision came after Mr. Carvajal was denied asylum in Spain. A court official said he cannot appeal the extradition order and could be sent to the United States at any time.

The ruling came just four days after the extradition to the United States of a key ally of the Venezuelan leader, Nicolás Maduro. Alex Saab, a Colombian businessman known as Mr. Maduro’s financial fixer, had been arrested in Cape Verde, an island nation off the coast of West Africa, on American charges of money laundering.

Mr. Maduro retaliated for the Saab extradition, calling off talks with the opposition and jailing six executives of the Houston-based company Citgo Petroleum, who have been detained in Venezuela since 2017 and had been under house arrest. The events dealt a blow to the Biden administration’s hopes that it could ease tensions with Venezuela, and that negotiations between Mr. Maduro and his opponents would lead to free and fair elections.

Living conditions in Venezuela have deteriorated sharply in recent years, worsened by corruption and a U.S. trade embargo, with poverty, disease and violence now rampant. Human rights investigators say the leftist government has grown increasingly repressive.

Spain has become one of the main safe havens for members of the Venezuelan opposition and defecting members of the Socialist Party who have fled the political and economic turmoil.

Mr. Carvajal was arrested in Madrid in September for the second time in less than three years. The police said at the time that he had been living “fully shut-in” at an undisclosed location in Madrid, relying on the help of allies who were not identified.

Mr. Carvajal was a prominent figure in the government of Mr. Maduro before breaking with him in dramatic fashion. He released a video in February 2019 that accused Mr. Maduro of running a corrupt dictatorship whose top officials were engaged in drug trafficking.

Both he and Mr. Saab have knowledge and information that could prove damaging to Mr. Maduro and his allies.

Mr. Carvajal was first detained on the American extradition request in April 2019 after he fled to Spain. But he was then released from a Spanish prison after a court deemed the extradition request to be too “abstract” to establish his involvement in drug trafficking.

Prosecutors successfully appealed the ruling, but Mr. Carvajal went missing, creating a diplomatic headache for Spain and adding another twist in a long cat-and-mouse game.

In a February 2019 interview with The New York Times, Mr. Carvajal denied that he was involved in drug trafficking. After his detention in Spain and during his extradition hearing, he and his lawyers claimed that the drug charges had been fabricated, and that the case brought by the United States was politically motivated.

The United States Justice Department has said that in April 2006, Mr. Carvajal coordinated the transportation of about six U.S. tons of cocaine to Mexico from Venezuela, according to charges filed in federal court in New York. If convicted, he would face a mandatory minimum sentence of 10 years in prison and a maximum sentence of life.

Known by the nickname “El Pollo,” or “The Chicken,” Mr. Carvajal served for several years as the military intelligence chief under Hugo Chávez, the former leader of Venezuela, and under Mr. Maduro. Later, he was a lawmaker in the governing Socialist Party before his abrupt falling-out with Mr. Maduro, Mr. Chávez’s successor.

Mr. Carvajal urged the military to side with Mr. Maduro’s main opponent, Juan Guaidó. Mr. Guaidó was recognized as Venezuela’s legitimate president by the United States and several other Western governments, but that has not prevented Mr. Maduro from holding onto power, even as his country’s economic problems have spiraled in recent years.

Though Mr. Carvajal cannot appeal the extradition ruling directly, he could try to remain in Spain by appealing the decision to deny him asylum, said Martín Palladino, a Spanish lawyer who specializes in extradition issues.

Since his arrest last month, Mr. Carvajal has also offered to cooperate with an investigation by Spain’s judiciary, claiming to have information that Venezuela helped fund Spain’s leftist Unidas Podemos party, a coalition partner in the government. Earlier this week, a Spanish judge set a hearing for Mr. Carvajal on Oct. 27 to testify on the matter.

Unidas Podemos has denied wrongdoing and the party’s spokesman, Pablo Echenique, accused Mr. Carvajal of offering to contribute “rubbish from the gutter.”

Raphael Minder covers Spain and Portugal, based in Madrid. He previously worked for Bloomberg News in Switzerland and for the Financial Times in Paris, Brussels, Sydney and finally Hong Kong. @RaphaelMinder

A version of this article appears in print on Oct. 21, 2021, Section A, Page 10 of the New York edition with the headline: Spain Agrees to Extradite Ex-Venezuela Spy Chief. Order Reprints | Today’s Paper | Subscribe


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How many times do I have to be CORRECT? :gucci:

Cac lies. Iran and Venezuela have always had a partnership due to being OPEC members. Iran is trying to help an OPEC member almost on the verge of collapse maintain itself to keep OPEC afloat. It's like Germany helping Greece so the EU doesn't start to flop. It's logical. Saying a hardcore catholic country will some how become a safe haven for islamic terrorists is being naive. You can tie almost every rich Iranian to a terrorist organisation because the list is bias in itself. It's like how cacs toss around BLM so loosely.

Take away this guys thread making abilities

This a gigantic reach of epic proportions,... where does the buck stop ?:gucci:

Fear-mongering.
Islam never does well in stronghold Catholic countries, they don't tolerate them and their buffoonery.

Hence why Spain, Italy and Portugal are spared the refugee bullshyt

Are you okay in the head breh ? You realize Brazil, Mexico aint f*cking with that islam sh!t

Never mind the rest of Latin America....

Stop acting like a cac...did you get bullied by pakistanis for being indian or some sh!t ?

There are Islamic terrorists in South America and the Caribbean...

Venezuela and other states are involved in the drug trade.


Funny watching people ignore it.

Tarec who is of syrian decent isn't a sunni or major brand of islam..

So any link with terrorist groups such s isis
.al quaidah is going to be bull.

Watch out guys. Iran might use Venezuela to throw toilet paper at us!

What a BS, no Venezuela and Latin America will not be overrun by Islamic extremists, and anyone who believes that is an idiot.

I'm venezuelan and I would advise anyone here to take any crazy stories about trying to tie Venezuela and islamic terrorism with a grain of salt. Venezuela has always had Syrians, Lebanese, Saudis nationals living here, they mostly live in Isla de Margarita, Maracaibo, Punto Fijo, Puerto la Cruz, El Tigre, Maracay, and Caracas, and Aragua state. They're not terrorists they all for the most part have more money then the typical venezuelan and honestly like alot of well off venezuelans they have either already left or are trying to.

How dumb Iranian Intel gotta be to think they can do a high speed boat trip from ny to Venezuela and not get intercepted by the USCG posted all along the eastern seaboard :mjlol:




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BOGOTÁ, Colombia — The Biden administration and the government of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro have agreed to a deal in which the U.S. would ease sanctions on Venezuela’s oil industry and the authoritarian state would allow a competitive, internationally monitored presidential election next year, according to two people familiar with the breakthrough talks.

The sanctions relief is to be announced after Maduro’s government and Venezuela’s U.S.-backed opposition sign an agreement to include commitments by the socialist government to allow a freer vote in 2024, the people said. They’re expected to do that during a meeting in Barbados on Tuesday with U.S. officials in attendance.

Maduro, who claimed victory in a 2018 election widely viewed as fraudulent, would agree to a process for lifting bans on opposition candidates running, one of the people said, though it is not clear how quickly that process would take place. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the talks.

A senior administration official said the deal did not include plans to unfreeze Venezuelan assets currently held in the United States. The U.S. is likely to put a time limit on any sanctions relief so that it could be reversed if Maduro didn’t comply with his end of deal.

Maduro would commit to accepting international electoral observations and opening up media access for the elections. It was not clear if the deal would also involve the release of political prisoners in Venezuela.

The meeting in Barbados is to be announced Monday morning. The delegations are to arrive this afternoon.

If the deal is signed, the U.S. government is prepared to announce the lifting of certain oil sanctions against Venezuela, the two people said. The sanctions relief could include a general license for Venezuela’s state-owned oil agency to resume business with the United States and other countries.

U.S. officials have said they would consider easing sanctions if Maduro laid the groundwork for free and fair presidential elections. A State Department representative did not respond to a request for comment.

The agreement comes days before Venezuela’s opposition parties plan to hold a primary vote to chose a single candidate to back against Maduro. The front-runner in the unofficial primary, María Corina Machado, is one of several opposition leaders the Maduro government has barred from running for office. The disqualification was sharply condemned by the U.S. government.

The United States has imposed sanctions against the Venezuelan government or Venezuelan individuals for more than 15 years, but significantly tightened them in early 2019 after declaring Maduro’s 2018 victory illegitimate.

The Trump administration sanctioned Venezuela’s state oil company, the central bank and key government officials. Then it imposed a wider economic embargo. It froze the property and interests of the Maduro government in the United States and prohibited Americans from doing business with the government.

The deal emerged from direct talks between Biden administration officials and Maduro government representatives that began last year during the start of the war in Ukraine. The Biden administration began easing restrictions on Chevron, the main U.S. oil company with assets in Venezuela, in a gesture intended to support talks between the Maduro government and the opposition.

The U.S. also announced this month it would resume direct deportation flights to Venezuela, another sign of thawing relations between the two countries. The strained relationship had limited the United States’ ability to return undocumented Venezuelan migrants.
 
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