Introducing my new QB Star Rating !

[JameisNewton]

But he claims that he's not making Cousins into a Great White Hope. He's the perfect example of someone who doesn't watch games and only follows media narratives.

you like that? YOU LIKE THAT

 

[godkiller]

But he claims that he's not making Cousins into a Great White Hope. He's the perfect example of someone who doesn't watch games and only follows media narratives.

I am the FOREMOST stan for Geno Smith, who last I remembered was black, so your assertion I am making Cousins into a "great white hope" or that I would root for a guy to be a great white hope is ludicrous. It's just crazy.

 

[IGSaint12]

In terms of raw passing acumen, Cousins is up there. Cam is a better deep passer and has a better arm to match, so his numbers will look better but he's not that much better than Cousins in terms of pure passing ability. I'm talking about footwork, read efficacy, anticipation, etc. It was only last year Cam started playing really well. A lot of what Cam is able to do in the passing game is because of his athleticism and arm strength.

Nope. If you actually follow Cam's develop from middle of the pack to mvp, it has all to do with his improved reading of the defense, audibling, anticipation. If a lot of what Cam did was because of athleticism and arm strength, you would not see such a huge jump in TDs from last season to this Season. You just have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[godkiller]

Nope. If you actually follow Cam's develop from middle of the pack to mvp, it has all to do with his improved reading of the defense, audibling, anticipation. If a lot of what Cam did was because of athleticism and arm strength, you would not see such a huge jump in TDs from last season to this Season. You just have no idea what you're talking about.

Sure, Newton has improved his reads, anticipation and ball placement, and his leading the pack in my OP is evidence of that recognizance. But this doesn't mean Cousins isn't very good either. He reads the field well, anticipates receivers and throws balls to places only his receivers can latch onto them. As proof of his ability, Cousins singlehandedly turned a bottom 5 passing offense with RG3 into a top 10 unit. He did this without Newton's cannon or insane scrambling ability. Accordingly he must have some passing chops. It is evident on the tape that Cousins knows what he's doing. Does he misread defenses? Yes. Does he lock onto receivers? Yes. But all QBs do this.

As for my not knowing what I'm talking about, I'm fairly sure you have never analyzed on tape on Cousins. So your doubting him and me based on nothing but bias is ironic.

I was one of the few posters here who said Cousins was better than RG3 and should start based on his cape. And lo and behold my prediction held.

 

[VanVanCity]

You should include: line audibles/reading the defence

 

[godkiller]

You should include: line audibles/reading the defence

TEdit: Oh you're taking about presnap reads. That's a little hard to figure out just from watching. I can't really tell which QBs know how to identify coverages and adjust better than others. The Read Efficacy metric talks about how good a QB is at growing through his progressions. I'll change it to "Progressions" I think.

 

[VanVanCity]

Thanks for reading.Read Efficacy is tantamount to reading the defence. I think I'll change the term to your suggestion to make things easier to understand. Audibles is a little hard to figure out though.

I took read efficiency as how the qb reads his receiving options, like how Kaepernick once he sees that his number one receiver is covered he runs the ball, where as an elite quarterback will look to their third and fourth options upon reading the coverage

 

[godkiller]

I took read efficiency as how the qb reads his receiving options, like how Kaepernick once he sees that his number one receiver is covered he runs the ball, where as an elite quarterback will look to their third and fourth options upon reading the coverage

Yeah, that's what it is. I edited my post above to reflect what you are saying. You're talking about presnap reads. I think it's a little hard from to couch to know which QBs actually read coverages better and adjust better to those coverages than other QBs comparatively. Post snap reading ability is easier to interpret respectively and that's why I included it in the metric.

 

[VanVanCity]

Yeah, that's what it is. I edited my post above to reflect what you are saying. You're talking about presnap reads. I think it's a little hard from to couch to know what QBs actually read coverages and adjust better than other QBs. Post snap reading ability is easier to interpret because QBs move their heads around and look for options if they're good.

Yeah true, especially because some team's audibles and shifts are a lot harder to pick up on TV than others. Maybe a football iq category?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Just might be the WOAT system.

 

[godkiller]

Yeah true, especially because some team's audibles and shifts are a lot harder to pick up on TV than others. Maybe a football iq category?

I could possibly include something like a football IQ category, yeah. In hindsight I forgot to add "Decision Making". I think that might suffice as a good substitute in lieu of an actual Football IQ category.