INTERSTELLAR Official Discussion, Review & Spoiler Thread
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Well I havent met your homies so my statement still stands
Its not perfect by any means but even yougotta admit it's worth seeing
I read theories that he didnt survive but idk about all that
Well I havent met your homies so my statement still stands
Its not perfect by any means but even yougotta admit it's worth seeing
I read theories that he didnt survive but idk about all that
I mean I guess it's worth seeing. Idk man I like character and good dialogue and this movie had a shortage of both. I can't recommend it if I'm not high on it myself. I think it's good but not anything mind blowing personally. I dont fault anyone who likes it or loves it tho, different strokes. It just doesn't do much for me. still gorgeous to look at tho and the guy who shot this is shooting the new James Bond :smugbond:
And yet TDKR has one of the most forced 'pairings' in recent movie history when Bruce, after retiring for eight years because the love of his life died, doesn't hesitate to bust nuts in Miranda (Talia) within days of returning to society.
There are plenty of flaws to speak on TDKR, but I thought we're talking about Interstellar.
And yet TDKR has one of the most forced 'pairings' in recent movie history when Bruce, after retiring for eight years because the love of his life died, doesn't hesitate to bust nuts in Miranda (Talia) within days of returning to society.
Don't get me started breh. That whole setup just shows Talia enacted quite possibly the worst revenge scheme in the history of revenge schemes
Well I havent met your homies so my statement still stands
Its not perfect by any means but even yougotta admit it's worth seeing
I read theories that he didnt survive but idk about all that
I am one of those people that strongly believe he did not survive. This film, as we know, is filled with blatant foreshadowing. And the whole thing about Lazarus, love being an extra dimension, and the question of seeing your children before you die all hints or clues to him dying once he entered the black hole. Not to mention the Tesseract served as Purgatory and thereby him becoming a poltergeist.
There's a split separated scene in which he enters the black hole and as soon as the Ranger begins to crumble he screams as if he's being crushed THEN it goes to the scene with Murph going back into her old room trying to investigate the phenomena of her "ghost" which she find that broken toy spaceship (another hint of his ship being crushed). Immediately after that it goes back to him ejecting from his ship. I believe that split scene was of him dying right there, and the return scene is him metaphorically "ejecting" from his own self.
If we are to believe the Lazarus foreshadowing, I strongly think that the 5th dimensional "Gods" brought him back to life to be reconnected with his daughter.
I wouldn't say the worse, but ineffective and poorly executed. I mean in the comics Talia and Batman always had a conflicting romantic connection, and in the film, it would make a lot of sense of her seeking personal revenge to the man who's responsible to the death of her father as well as trying to fulfill her father's last agenda at the same time. I have no problem with that, but the romantic execution wasn't done well at all. Not the fact he gave her the dicck, I mean WHO WOULDN'T? It's the fact that he's suddenly "in love" with that hoe after fuccking her just once, and immediately get go out and get the beats from Bane and a broken back and kidnapped for 6 months. I know Bruce typically haven't gotten any ass for 8 years and shyt... but to get weak on p*ssy THAT quick and it being the reason of his common sense being cloudy just doesn't fly. Nolan should of built on that relationship more... make it concrete. Have it to where he indeed rebounded from Rachel and been dating this chick for YEARS.
Interstellar has a pretty similar ending to Inception and Dark Knight Rises and my opinion on those is that ultimately it doesn't matter if it's a dream or not because the main character chooses to embrace his possible non-existence. Also McConaughey rejecting the future paradise and going off to Anne Hathaway to probably live out an Adam and Eve scenario (and who wouldn't want that with Hathaway?) is similar to Bruce Wayne dropping out of Gotham and choosing a new destiny for himself.
It's not a bad thing that Nolan's recurring thing recently seems to be this whole "is it a dream" thing but so far Inception handled that the best, in my opinion.
It's not a bad thing that Nolan's recurring thing recently seems to be this whole "is it a dream" thing but so far Inception handled that the best, in my opinion.
Being that Interstellar and Inception are companion films, I can see similar endings. As for TDKR, I disagree. It was clear and concise in its ending. The only ambiguity was the question of who or what John Blake was to become.
Took my wife and we both thoroughly enjoyed the film. I know a lot of people like to start breaking shyt down and trying to convince others why the movie wasnt good but whatever, im not into that. We both left happy and telling other folks to see it.
When i was younger the moments in the movie that were purposely put there to cause an emotional reaction would have had me yawning but now that im older and have lost some family and seen some younger family grow into adulthood since birth that shyt about losing 23 years just like that was
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When i was younger the moments in the movie that were purposely put there to cause an emotional reaction would have had me yawning but now that im older and have lost some family and seen some younger family grow into adulthood since birth that shyt about losing 23 years just like that was
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I just left the threatre seeing this. I didn't read the reviews in this thread, nor did I read critic reviews so I don't know what the consensus is. I guess to describe my overall feeling is best illustrated with this smiley 
Mind you science and space are my passion so I'm going to enjoy the movie regardless. I guess I wish I knew more of the background, so I knew what led to the blight. I also felt the whole coop going to space seemed a bit rushed. Ultimately I think the wormhole and all events were in a way were a loop in time. Some future beings, who we in essence saved, created the wormhole so we could travel through it and fulfill the mission. You have to suspend reality for several things, namely going through a blackhole and not be crushed. I still have to process some thoughts and read through this thread, but for now it's a 3/5. I don't know if the general audience will gravitate to this like they did inception. To the uninitiated this is a lot to wrap their heads around.
Mind you science and space are my passion so I'm going to enjoy the movie regardless. I guess I wish I knew more of the background, so I knew what led to the blight. I also felt the whole coop going to space seemed a bit rushed. Ultimately I think the wormhole and all events were in a way were a loop in time. Some future beings, who we in essence saved, created the wormhole so we could travel through it and fulfill the mission. You have to suspend reality for several things, namely going through a blackhole and not be crushed. I still have to process some thoughts and read through this thread, but for now it's a 3/5. I don't know if the general audience will gravitate to this like they did inception. To the uninitiated this is a lot to wrap their heads around.
It is a chicken vs end scenario. I think the issue is most of us here can only view time as linear. So in that essence there has to be an ultimate beginning. Movies like time crimes and primer do a good job at tackling this topic. Ultimately there is no beginning because the future generations are saved by us and create the wormhole, which we use to save them. Maybe you can factor in theories within quantum mechanics, namely that there are infinite universes with infinite possibilities and each action is created within in a universe.
Its an insane concept to wrap your head around, namely there is no beginning or end.
I see you playa, you get it :truedat:
This is a great point worthy of note. The thing is a black hole is something of immense, if not infinite gravity. Even though the laws of physics breaks down he would have been crushed or spaghettified once he passed the event horizon. The movie did make it seem like he was only experiencing a few g's of force, which is insane, because the gravity of a black hole would have flattened him to a pancake. I do think you make a great point man.
Also to follow up on that you could say his daughter seeing him before she died was a metaphor of her seeing the other side
I just left the threatre seeing this. I didn't read the reviews in this thread, nor did I read critic reviews so I don't know what the consensus is. I guess to describe my overall feeling is best illustrated with this smiley
Mind you science and space are my passion so I'm going to enjoy the movie regardless. I guess I wish I knew more of the background, so I knew what led to the blight. I also felt the whole coop going to space seemed a bit rushed. Ultimately I think the wormhole and all events were in a way were a loop in time. Some future beings, who we in essence saved, created the wormhole so we could travel through it and fulfill the mission. You have to suspend reality for several things, namely going through a blackhole and not be crushed. I still have to process some thoughts and read through this thread, but for now it's a 3/5. I don't know if the general audience will gravitate to this like they did inception. To the uninitiated this is a lot to wrap their heads around.
I think the background was purposely left ambiguous, because Nolan didn't want to send out an blatant social/political message like it's climate change's fault or it due to that. The truth of the matter no matter HOW it will happen, it WILL happen to where the planet WILL die or human existence will be threatened due to the inability to sustain living on the planet no longer. It could happen naturally or unnaturally.
With that said, I have the educated guess the reason for the blight, the repeated massive dust storms, and the significant population drop within a 3 generational time span was due to a nuclear war. Of course it never outright stated it, but it was implied something to that effect was what had happened. Cooper's claim when he was growing up, people were running amok in panic, Dr. Brand's statement that NASA was initially decommissioned due to its refusal to bomb nukes from the stratosphere onto innocent people, as well as his admission that bringing in more people into building the space station was due to them not building any more bullets or weapons. In fact, it is reasonable to believe that the main reason why he created the hoax mission, knowing that it was mathematically implausible (according to Dr. Mann's claim that Prof. Bland solved the equation prior to them even leaving for the planetary mission) was due to convincing the government end the war. This was how NASA was able to get those droids like TARS & CASE which were initially combat soldier robots.
Also, OF COURSE you have to suspend belief, because it is still science fiction, so the element of make believe will be intertwine with the hard science. With that said, and Kip Thorne stated this while conversing with Nolan in one of the behind the scenes of this film, there's NOTHING concrete as to what exactly will happen once entering a black hole. All of it is educated speculation, which gives someone an artistic license to interpret how they would like to interpret due to it all theory anyway. There's nothing to ever suggest wormholes exists, just the mathematical idea that it could.
With that said, scroll above.... I explained my strong belief that Cooper did not survive while entering the black hole. That his soul was transitioned into the 5th dimension, and the 5th dimensional "Gods" brought him back to life.... like Lazarus. But that's my own theory.