International Players Rematch: The 2024 SEC Championship Game: UGA vs Texas

Who wins the SEC?

  • The mighty Dawgs

    Votes: 8 32.0%
  • Hook em Horns

    Votes: 13 52.0%
  • osu sucks

    Votes: 4 16.0%

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@Bigwhite2498 another TD if Quinn makes a good throw. This is why I'm reluctant to blame Sark. The plays are there. Just not executed by the QB. No real pressure, just throw this to the pylon.

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@Bigwhite2498 another TD if Quinn makes a good throw. This is why I'm reluctant to blame Sark. The plays are there. Just not executed by the QB. No real pressure, just throw this to the pylon.

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He’s had bad throws ofc but my problem is we threw the ball almost 50 times we ran screens that put in in the negative 3-4 yards then the biggest thing is our run game idk why he insists on having our big ass 330 pound guards pull every 2 plays or run outside zone so much. That’s why I say this game is on sark Quinn played decent at best but fukk me if we weren’t in a lot of bad positions because of odd playcalling. Like i understand setting up the screen for a big play like you said but there were a couple drives we ran like 2 screen in a row
 

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He’s had bad throws ofc but my problem is we threw the ball almost 50 times we ran screens that put in in the negative 3-4 yards then the biggest thing is our run game idk why he insists on having our big ass 330 pound guards pull every 2 plays or run outside zone so much. That’s why I say this game is on sark Quinn played decent at best but fukk me if we weren’t in a lot of bad positions because of odd playcalling. Like i understand setting up the screen for a big play like you said but there were a couple drives we ran like 2 screen in a row
We couldn't run the ball. We tried. Georgia wasn't going to let us beat them by just running the ball. Rewatch the game and watch their LBs. They were selling, and they didn't even try and contain Quinn because they knew he wasn't a threat. They dared us to beat them with our QB. We couldn't.
 

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We couldn't run the ball. We tried. Georgia wasn't going to let us beat them by just running the ball. Rewatch the game and watch their LBs. They were selling, and they didn't even try and contain Quinn because they knew he wasn't a threat. They dared us to beat them with our QB. We couldn't.
We should’ve used arch more to run. But even then if he’s an offensive guru us only have 31 yards shouldn’t happen. Kyle Shannon and Andy Reid with terrible lines still get random nobodies 100 yard plus games
 

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We should’ve used arch more to run. But even then if he’s an offensive guru us only have 31 yards shouldn’t happen. Kyle Shannon and Andy Reid with terrible lines still get random nobodies 100 yard plus games
We would have had more than 31 yards running if the passing game would have been more successful. Sark MO is to pass early to set up the run late. Wisner has ran for 150+ in the two previous games with most of that coming late in the game. But when your QB can't make throws, and the defense doesn't believe he can beat you with his arm, the run game isn't going to open up.
 

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We would have had more than 31 yards running if the passing game would have been more successful. Sark MO is to pass early to set up the run late. Wisner has ran for 150+ in the two previous games with most of that coming late in the game. But when your QB can't make throws, and the defense doesn't believe he can beat you with his arm, the run game isn't going to open up.
I have to disagree a bit Quinn made throws the first half tho our WRs just failed us that half. Second half they just was coming all out and we went away from what was working. No more crossers then we took out dj Campbell like what 3rd quarter and the line play kinda dropped. I fear we won’t be Elite till we get great guards. Also we have to be honest I don’t think our run scheme is all that good even last year we had issues it’s just my cousin was elite at making people miss same with bijan and rocshon. Maybe sark gonna have to look at his run scheme and see why it’s not effective unless we have a superstar back. We aren’t gonna win many games with no running game very few qbs even the elite of the elite can win games throwing almost 50 times and running the ball for 31 yards at some point we gotta look at sark it happens last year in the bama game too matter fact till at the end when we kinda went brought more guys in to chew clock. It seems like any team with competent linebackers just completely takes away our run game and that honestly shouldn’t happen.
 
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I have to disagree a bit Quinn made throws the first half tho our WRs just failed us that half. Second half they just was coming all out and we went away from what was working. No more crossers then we took out dj Campbell like what 3rd quarter and the line play kinda dropped. I fear we won’t be Elite till we get great guards. Also we have to be honest I don’t think our run scheme is all that good even last year we had issues it’s just my cousin was elite at making people miss same with bijan and rocshon. Maybe sark gonna have to look at his run scheme and see why it’s not effective unless we have a superstar back. We aren’t gonna win many games with no running game very few qbs even the elite of the elite can win games throwing almost 50 times and running the ball for 31 yards at some point we gotta look at sark it happens last year in the bama game too matter fact till at the end when we kinda went brought more guys in to chew clock
Sark's entire offense is predicated on IZ runs. It sets up everything else. Our current healthy RBs aren't the best IZ runners, so it hampers the offense. But you are also ignoring we ran the ball pretty damn well in the previous games. Stop looking at this game in a vacuum. I've already explained to you why we couldn't run the ball this game and you just don't want to see it.

Quinn did have a good first half, he normally does. It's the second half where he plays like shyt. We are 12-2 with both losses coming to the same team. We have won many games this season with this run game and we had chances to win this game despite the lack of rushing yards. And despite every thing you are complaining about the issue for most of the fan base is Quinn left a lot of winning plays on the field. Had he made them you wouldn't be complaining about every thing else. He is the QB, he touches the ball on every down. He just doesn't play with the winning confidence he should be playing with at this point, and he still ain't making the winning plays he should be making. Everything else is secondary to that.
 

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Sark's entire offense is predicated on IZ runs. It sets up everything else. Our current healthy RBs aren't the best IZ runners, so it hampers the offense. But you are also ignoring we ran the ball pretty damn well in the previous games. Stop looking at this game in a vacuum. I've already explained to you why we couldn't run the ball this game and you just don't want to see it.

Quinn did have a good first half, he normally does. It's the second half where he plays like shyt. We are 12-2 with both losses coming to the same team. We have won many games this season with this run game and we had chances to win this game despite the lack of rushing yards. And despite every thing you are complaining about the issue for most of the fan base is Quinn left a lot of winning plays on the field. Had he made them you wouldn't be complaining about every thing else. He is the QB, he touches the ball on every down. He just doesn't play with the winning confidence he should be playing with at this point, and he still ain't making the winning plays he should be making. Everything else is secondary to that.
We ran the ball well because those teams have shytty linebackers our guard play is terrible. Quinn didn’t play amazing but I’m not gonna be stupid and blame the game on him completely. If sark is that guy we shouldn’t be so piss poor at running the ball against any linebacker core with a pulse. You can keep saying he should’ve made plays and yes I agree but he still threw from 358. If a qb throws for 358 wtf else is he supposed to do to help the run game. I can’t put this 100% on Quinn when we get 31 yards to do so is ridiculous and I don’t even like the mf like that having him throw 46 times isn’t a winning formula we need a running game and that’s up to the oline and sark to figure it out. It seems you just want give sark a pass and put all the blame on Quinn but at some point it becomes about sark and this oline. Even if he made those plays I still would be upset at our running performance because that’s just not winning football. I love the way the program is going but we have some fundamental flaws that have been present for a while even before Quinn
 

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We ran the ball well because those teams have shytty linebackers our guard play is terrible. Quinn didn’t play amazing but I’m not gonna be stupid and blame the game on him completely. If sark is that guy we shouldn’t be so piss poor at running the ball against any linebacker core with a pulse. You can keep saying he should’ve made plays and yes I agree but he still threw from 358. If a qb throws for 358 wtf else is he supposed to do to help the run game. I can’t put this 100% on Quinn when we get 31 yards to do so is ridiculous and I don’t even like the mf like that having him throw 46 times isn’t a winning formula we need a running game and that’s up to the oline and sark to figure it out. It seems you just want give sark a pass and put all the blame on Quinn but at some point it becomes about sark and this oline. Even if he made those plays I still would be upset at our running performance because that’s just not winning football. I love the way the program is going but we have some fundamental flaws that have been present for a while even before Quinn
So you want us to be able to run the ball just because, even if the defense is focused on stopping the run and has the athletes to do so. Sark didn't call a perfect game, but he called the game based on what the defense was giving us. How many times did we try and run and fail? Quinn through for 358 because that is what the defense was giving us. You still can't seem to grasp Georgia put the game in Ewers hands because they were betting he wouldn't make enough plays to beat them. Instead you want to complain why everything else wasn't working. But once we got into the Red zone he was 2-10 for 5 yards. That is where the game was lost.

You can't say our running scheme is bad just because it doesn't work against Georgia. Sark has beat Georgia plenty of times as an OC. All he can do is call the plays, he can't go in and execute them for the players. And you are completely ignoring the fact that this game was very winnable despite the rushing performance.
 

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So you want us to be able to run the ball just because, even if the defense is focused on stopping the run and has the athletes to do so. Sark didn't call a perfect game, but he called the game based on what the defense was giving us. How many times did we try and run and fail? Quinn through for 358 because that is what the defense was giving us. You still can't seem to grasp Georgia put the game in Ewers hands because they were betting he wouldn't make enough plays to beat them. Instead you want to complain why everything else wasn't working. But once we got into the Red zone he was 2-10 for 5 yards. That is where the game was lost.

You can't say our running scheme is bad just because it doesn't work against Georgia. Sark has beat Georgia plenty of times as an OC. All he can do is call the plays, he can't go in and execute them for the players. And you are completely ignoring the fact that this game was very winnable despite the rushing performance.
He beat Georgia at Alabama we aren’t bama yet that’s a false equivalence. Quinn is who is his but there is no way we should be relying on a game manager to throw 46 times. I will complain about everything else because I want to win a championship and that performance will not do that. You just hate quinn to the point you blame him for everything. I don’t think he’s great but I’m not gonna put the whole blame on him
 

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He beat Georgia at Alabama we aren’t bama yet that’s a false equivalence. Quinn is who is his but there is no way we should be relying on a game manager to throw 46 times. I will complain about everything else because I want to win a championship and that performance will not do that. You just hate quinn to the point you blame him for everything. I don’t think he’s great but I’m not gonna put the whole blame on him
I'm not putting the entire blame on him. I've stated we couldn't run the ball, Sark didn't call a perfect game, we committed stupid penalties, and missed fgs. Also if Gilbeau makes a block on that interception we probably win the game. That is how razor thin winning the game was. The annoyance with Quinn is at this point in his career he should be able to make the plays to win the game when given the opportunity, and he fails time and time again. He doesn't even seem to exude the confidence to be able to do so. He isn't an alpha, and that holds this team back. I'm not even asking him to be Vince, but at least carry yourself like Colt got damn.
 
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