Interesting article. Why I Wont Be Voting For Barack Obama. By a liberal.

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I agree with this. And I totally understand voting for a 3rd party candidate that has momentum that you can see reflected in the polls. I don't understand voting for Gary Johnson...or Jill Stein. Gary Johnson has no momentum or movement. Gary Johnson will not get more than 1% of the vote or make any appreciable impact in any state. That's a fact.

If there is a 3rd party candidate that catches a fire and does have a real movement that can be built upon, you'd see it in the polls. So I'm trying to understand the thought process of someone who votes for a 3rd party candidate that has statistically negligible support, and see if there's any logic to go along with the blatantly obvious emotion. There's no difference between voting for Gary Johnson and writing in yourself. And this is coming from someone who voted for Nader in FL in 2000. I told myself all that shyt about principle, but it was pretty much an emotional act...and an unwise one.

I mean the futility of voting 3rd party is reflective of the problem. Plus I don't think its as futile as you claim. A lot of folks live in states guaranteed to go one way or the other. But a big showing of a third party would make waves (and generate $$$$ for the next go round). And in swing states, a 3rd party candidate could take it all, if people are disgusted enough with the other two choices and aware of the 3rd option.

You say its a waste to vote for someone who can't win... IDK, I don't rock with either candidate to keep it 100, to me it wouldn't be right to vote for either of them. I don't want either running the country.,

 

[Pazzy]

basically. vote for the less garbage candidate and if you have the energy hold their feet to the fire a la Tea Party. thats the best you can hope for.

that's what it's always been about. some people vote for the person that holds the same views as theirs even though they KNOW they won't win. whatever floats their vote as long as they're voting.

 

[BlvdBrawler]

that's what it's always been about. some people vote for the person that holds the same views as theirs even though they KNOW they won't win. whatever floats their vote as long as they're voting.

That's the thing tho my man. voting shouldn't be about predicting the winner, it should be about expressing your voice through the process. If I vote for Obama or Romney, then I'm not really voicing my opinion at all, I'm kinda... settling for just having a hand in the process, which isn't what I want.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

That's the thing tho my man. voting shouldn't be about predicting the winner, it should be about expressing your voice through the process. If I vote for Obama or Romney, then I'm not really voicing my opinion at all, I'm kinda... settling for just having a hand in the process, which isn't what I want.

In my opinion we should be voting for the candidate that has the best chance of steering the country in the direction we agree with. Voting for a candidate that you know will loose could hurt you in the future. If the candidate that you least agree with gets in office then you shot yourself in the foot by trying to be all selfish and voting for the candidate that reflects your views 100%. if we all voted for the person who aligns the best with our own personal views there would be thousands of candidates. Hell I'd vote for my dad to be honest.

We should be voting for the betterment of the country, not our personal views. Voting for a third party candidate means your putting your own personal views above the country, and that's that shyt i dont like

 

[BlvdBrawler]

In my opinion we should be voting for the candidate that has the best chance of steering the country in the direction we agree with. Voting for a candidate that you know will loose could hurt you in the future. If the candidate that you least agree with gets in office then you shot yourself in the foot by trying to be all selfish and voting for the candidate that reflects your views 100%. if we all voted for the person who aligns the best with our own personal views there would be thousands of candidates. Hell I'd vote for my dad to be honest.

We should be voting for the betterment of the country, not our personal views. Voting for a third party candidate means your putting your own personal views above the country, and that's that shyt i dont like

That would require us to first all agree on which direction would best suit the country, would it not?

That is, of course I think my views are the right views for the country, hence why I'm voting that way.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

That would require us to first all agree on which direction would best suit the country, would it not?

That is, of course I think my views are the right views for the country, hence why I'm voting that way.

you don't get it. I said BEST CHANCE. a third party candidate has NO CHANCE whatsoever of steering the country in the direction you see fit. In my opinion you should at least vote for a candidate that has a chance to get in office and implement the plan you want. Even if you don't totally agree with the plan, at least you voted SOME of your views into office.

 

[BlvdBrawler]

you don't get it. I said BEST CHANCE. a third party candidate has NO CHANCE whatsoever of steering the country in the direction you see fit. In my opinion you should at least vote for a candidate that has a chance to get in office and implement the plan you want. Even if you don't totally agree with the plan, at least you voted SOME of your views into office.

I hear what you're saying I just don't agree.

If we all think your way, we're doomed to a 2 party system forever.

If we all think my way, then anyone from any party can take the presidency, which is what so many people claim to want.

 

[daze23]

a third party candidate has NO CHANCE whatsoever of steering the country in the direction you see fit.

I don't agree. if a party sees they are losing votes to a third party, they may have to rethink the direction their party is going

edit: and the other side of that is if people vote for a party no matter what, then there's no pressure to change anything

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I hear what you're saying I just don't agree.

If we all think your way, we're doomed to a 2 party system forever.

If we all think my way, then anyone from any party can take the presidency, which is what so many people claim to want.

I don't like the two party system either, but I don't think it's going anywhere anytime soon. I think the best we can do is try to steer the party in the direction we see fit. If there was really a movement to make one of these third parties mainstream then I'd agree with you all the way, but the truth is most people agree with one of the two parties enough that a third party just won't be viable for a long time.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I don't agree. if a party sees they are losing votes to a third party, they may have to rethink the direction their party is going

You have a point, but the truth is most third parties are just an extension of the two parties we have. Ron Paul could pass as a republican and Jill stein could pass as a democrat. In my opinion there are more reliable ways to influence a party/candidate to reflect your views.

 

[stealthbomber]

good article. i always hear about the drones and how they're constantly flying over pakistan, but i always thought they were strategically bombing, not sending missles into schools and homes. its good to see a relatively unbiased writer critisize obama in a constructive manner. not just bashing him with ridiuclous claims and no proof. coli right wing commentators take note.

im still voting for obama, but i can understand why he isn't.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

maybe part of his 'principle' is to vote for someone he feels is more qualified than himself

Are you his publicist or something?

 

[daze23]

You have a point, but the truth is most third parties are just an extension of the two parties we have. Ron Paul could pass as a republican and Jill stein could pass as a democrat. In my opinion there are more reliable ways to influence a party/candidate to reflect your views.

Ron Paul ran as a republican, so he doesn't have to pass for anything. honestly I think he would have been better off sticking to the Libertarian party

but calling them an extension of the other two parties is just how we've been trained to think about this shyt. it's something that's hard to get away from. can you think of anyone that you couldn't classify as leaning 'left' or 'right'?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Ron Paul ran as a republican, so he doesn't have to pass for anything. honestly I think he would have been better off sticking to the Libertarian party

but calling them an extension of the other two parties is just how we've been trained to think about this shyt. it's something that's hard to get away from. can you think of anyone that you couldn't classify as leaning 'left' or 'right'?

No, I don't think there is anyone on earth that is totally in the middle of all issues. It's all about compromise. We all have to compromise to get what we want, those that are unwilling to compromise are the ones holding the country back.

And I'm not just talking about third parties. I'm talking EVERYBODY.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

Far as that American guy who got droned out in Yemen I think, I personally didn't feel sorry for him. He willing joined a terrorist organization, had denounced America and its people, and was more then willing for terrorist attacks. He was a traitor in my eyes, good riddance!!!!

Yep, my ass is still voting for Obama and if bishes wanna let Mittens in well, I hope they'll enjoyed the roller coaster hell ride that will come with Mittens.

Obama/Biden 2012!!!!!!!

What about his son? Obama droned the mans innocent 16yo son as well. You support that I guess? Well at least Obama listens to Jay z right?



Gary Johnson 2012!