Integration has done more harm than good, black people have less than 1% of nation's wealth

[MeachTheMonster]

How are we better of when I literally posted shyt that says we're in the same position?

We have no WEALTH, no money to pass down to our kids, no businesses NOTHING.

Why would they what? Only deal with their own? You mean blacks? I don't know probably so the money can circulate in our own damn communities and we can support our own without outside assistance. Just a wild guess it's not in my OP or anything

Poverty is way down and black wealth is way up. Those are facts .

Why would other races support out businesses if we purposely segregated ourselves away from them?

 

[Vonte3000]

None of that proves your premiss that "integration has done more bad then good"

First off you are wrong in assuming that owning a business is synonymous with building wealth. The majority of those Asian and Mexican business are simple service industry stuff like convenient stores and nail shops. Low profits and low chance in building wealth. they own the business but still live in poverty in hopes that their kids go to school and pull them out.

Getting an education and going to work in a lucrative industry is a much better strategy in America in 2014. Which is why black business ownership has been on a decline while black education and wealth has been on the rise.

Second you have no real evidence that integration is the sole cause of less black business ownership. You posted the statistics about black hotel ownership. Times have changed, back then a "hotel" was a bed n breakfast in your guest room. Not a very lucrative business in today's world. Same goes with most of the service business that were prevalent today.

Put it this way. The average cost to open a business is more than it costs to earn a masters degree. The majority of business fail within the first 5 years, even more so for small profit service stuff. The average salary for a college graduate is about 50k. The average profit for small service business is 40k. Why the hell should we advocate risking more and working more to earn less?

wealth
welTH/
noun

1. an abundance of valuable possessions or money.

If Mexicans are only in nail shops and convenience stores why do they produce almost 20 billion more than African Americans? You gonna ignore data now and go on your own personal fukkin assumptions? That is just retarded what you said, damn right they're poor and we manage to be below them too

I just showed you that black wealth isn't on the rise with literally 12 graphs and articles you refuse to read I can't help you with that but even in my OP it said
"lack unemployment hit levels that we haven’t seen in over 30 years. The young men who should be heading our families are filling up the jails and prisons, and our public schools have become prisons with training wheels. There is nothing pretty about this form of integration, where even our best, brightest and strongest are in no position to help those of us who are struggling." You didn't read it though I bet

"Sole cause" like I told the other 2 guys who shut the hell up and stopped commenting after I responded, when did I say it was the sole cause?
It was a major one but it's a combination of things like an oppressive system, third time I answered this sole cause question. Show me where I said that and I will correct it, I asked the other guy to do the same he never replied back or responded to me

This last one really fukkin hurt me

Tell you what the video was an hour long so I'll assume you're busy

Like the Doc said in the LAST TEN MINUTES OF THE VIDEO and as I told the other guy just now

We need the men who ALREADY have businesses and who have future intent to open businesses to come to an agreement to move their business to an accessible place for blacks and another agreement wiht the black community to SUPPORT these black businesses. You don't need a fukkin degree to give support

 

[Vonte3000]

Poverty is way down and black wealth is way up. Those are facts .

Why would other races support out businesses if we purposely segregated ourselves away from them?

Where are these facts when I'm the only one posting evidence that shows otherwise?

Blacks will suppport our OWN businesses

I've repeated myself on this too, instead of going to the gas station and giving abdul your money they will go to a black owned business for their needs if there is one to satisfy any service or product needed. Would you prefer we continue handing every other race our money or our own? Your poverty claim is just fukking retarded because the only way wealth went up was the rich getting richer but that's a whole other thread. You think we're going to hang signs outside of black businesses saying "blacks only" You say wealth is up so wouldn't we have enough money to support our own or you just gonna keep contradicting yourself?

Why do you keep saying it's segregation? For investing and having our own communities? How come Asians can have their own little China town's across America and it's not segregation? This is the problem, you're trying to say black people shouldn't try and do something on our own without even making a common sense argument I don't even know where to start really.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

wealth
welTH/
noun

1. an abundance of valuable possessions or money.

If Mexicans are only in nail shops and convenience stores why do they produce almost 20 billion more than African Americans? You gonna ignore data now and go on your own personal fukkin assumptions? That is just retarded what you said, damn right they're poor and we manage to be below them too

Generating receipts=/= Generating wealth.

You have a very limited and simple understanding of the concepts you are presenting and the data you are using to support them.

I just showed you that black wealth isn't on the rise with literally 12 graphs and articles you refuse to read I can't help you with that but even in my OP it said
"lack unemployment hit levels that we haven’t seen in over 30 years. The young men who should be heading our families are filling up the jails and prisons, and our public schools have become prisons with training wheels. There is nothing pretty about this form of integration, where even our best, brightest and strongest are in no position to help those of us who are struggling." You didn't read it though I bet

All unemployment hit 30 year highs. That point proves absolutely nothing other than the fact that the country went through a recession.

No your graphs proved nothing. You are using the data to try to prove a pont that's not there. Compare our wealth now to before integration and it has risen.

"Sole cause" like I told the other 2 guys who shut the hell up and stopped commenting after I responded, when did I say it was the sole cause?
It was a major one but it's a combination of things like an oppressive system, third time I answered this sole cause question. Show me where I said that and I will correct it, I asked the other guy to do the same he never replied back or responded to me

You have provided no proof that it is a "major" cause either

This last one really fukkin hurt me

Tell you what the video was an hour long so I'll assume you're busy

Like the Doc said in the LAST TEN MINUTES OF THE VIDEO and as I told the other guy just now

We need the men who ALREADY have businesses and who have future intent to open businesses to come to an agreement to move their business to an accessible place for blacks and another agreement wiht the black community to SUPPORT these black businesses. You don't need a fukkin degree to give support

That's already happening and it has absolutely nothing to do with the point I made.

You are stuck on your own faulty opinion and you will spin everything to support that. No need for me to continue now. Your argument failed a long time ago. You'll just keep posting smileys and repeating the same thing. Just like your dude in the video that's been repeating this same flawed argument for years.

 

[Vonte3000]

Generating receipts=/= Generating wealth.

You have a very limited and simple understanding of the concepts you are presenting and the data you are using to support them.

All unemployment hit 30 year highs. That point proves absolutely nothing other than the fact that the country went through a recession.

No your graphs proved nothing. You are using the data to try to prove a pont that's not there. Compare our wealth now to before integration and it has risen.


You have provided no proof that it is a "major" cause either


That's already happening and it has absolutely nothing to do with the point I made.

You are stuck on your own faulty opinion and you will spin everything to support that. No need for me to continue now. Your argument failed a long time ago. You'll just keep posting smileys and repeating the same thing. Just like your dude in the video that's been repeating this same flawed argument for years. Carry on breh, im out

I don't even know what to say to the receipts thing, that's obviously a show of our business dealing and they generate more money than us so what are you even saying?

Black wealth rose huh? thta's funny my posting prove otherwise yet you can't show me wher eit rose yourself you have to tell me to go off and do it which I already have you're ignoring everything I put

I proved it was a cause with my OP but you didn't seem to read the correlation, either you're dumb as hell or you're ignoring it

Ironically you're stuck on your shytty opinion before you came in my thread os you just refute anythingI say off the rip

shocking you're running but I guess I'll take your word (random 29 year old on The Coli) over Dr. Claude Anderson's a corporations President, author, state coordinator of education, business advisor, President of the Harvest Institute etc. that kinda boring uninteresitng resume

I''m sure you're more qualified than him

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Where are these facts when I'm the only one posting evidence that shows otherwise?

the only graph you posted about wealth only goes back to the 80s and it shows our wealth has risen slightly since then even though it stops right in the middle of a worldwide recession.

Blacks will suppport our OWN businesses

I've repeated myself on this too, instead of going to the gas station and giving abdul your money they will go to a black owned business for their needs if there is one to satisfy any service or product needed. Would you prefer we continue handing every other race our money or our own? Your poverty claim is just fukking retarded because the only way wealth went up was the rich getting richer but that's a whole other thread. You think we're going to hang signs outside of black

And once again if blacks only own 1% if the wealth now, passing that money amongst ourselves will not allow us to grow. We rope ourselves off from the rest of the country and we are stuck with that same economic situation forever, the only way to grow is to bring in outside money. Can't do that if we are purposely segregating ourselves.

businesses saying "blacks only" You say wealth is up so wouldn't we have enough money to support our own or you just gonna keep contradicting yourself?

you seem confused.

Why do you keep saying it's segregation? For investing and having our own communities? How come Asians can have their own little China town's across America and it's not segregation? This is the problem, you're trying to say black people shouldn't try and do something on our own without even making a common sense argument I don't even know where to start really.

Black people do invest in and have our own communities. What's your point?

 

[Vonte3000]

It's obvious you came in not agreeing with me man so look I''m gonna level with you, if you read my OP and still don't agree then honestly I can't change your mind I editted it with all the information for questions and things people said to me LITERALLY everything is in that first point from this thread. If you read all that and watched at least some of the video and still don't agree nothing I can do. Until you actually do even attempt to understand my post in some form as any sensible person would before arguing against them then I can't argue with you man because form what I'm seeing you read maybe the first two paragraphs and said "fukk it" and started arguing
@MeachTheMonster

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I don't even know what to say to the receipts thing, that's obviously a show of our business dealing and they generate more money than us so what are you even saying?

Again generating more recipets is not equal to building wealth

Black wealth rose huh? thta's funny my posting prove otherwise yet you can't show me wher eit rose yourself you have to tell me to go off and do it which I already have you're ignoring everything I put

It's in your own graph

I proved it was a cause with my OP but you didn't seem to read the correlation, either you're dumb as hell or you're ignoring it

Your OP or the video proves absolutely nothing. Correlation =/= causation

Ironically you're stuck on your shytty opinion before you came in my thread os you just refute anythingI say off the rip

shocking you're running but I guess I'll take your word (random 29 year old on The Coli) over Dr. Claude Anderson's a corporations President, author, state coordinator of education, business advisor, President of the Harvest Institute etc. that kinda boring uninteresitng resume

I''m sure you're more qualified than him

Just because he's an accomplished person does not mean his opinion isn't flawed. He has provided no evidence other than correlations and opinions just as you haven't

 

[Vonte3000]

Again generating more recipets


It's in your own graph


Your OP or the video proves absolutely nothing. Correlation =/= causation



Just because he's an accomplished person does not mean his opinion isn't flawed. He has provided no evidence other than correlations and opinions just as you haven't

He did....in his video

This is why I trust him, he's accomplished and you're some random guy who says contradicting things with no experience in this except your own opinions. You think a guy like him just goes out saying this for fun or something? I think he's smart enough to know what he's saying. I don't even know if you have a fckin job or not so I'll go with him

 

[Blackking]

I started my first LLC when I was 22 years old which was a real estate investent and consulting company I'm about to turn 27

but starting a business is nothing but filing for Tax ID, you should do anyway so you don't have to use your personal credit for anything

Lots of black people own businesses that's not the problem, the problem is building a community in which would circulate money around to ourselves, and that takes unity

The next business I plan to start is a school, which could have already been reality, if the black people who were in position to do so would, but I just seen too much c00n shyt in recent years, it's driven to be the breaking point where I'm just ready to dip

Well.. im turning 30 this year... plus I was in the military. I have two llcs , both technology consulting... and one cleaning company that I technically own.... but really some chicks run it....from the cleaning company I've seen more c00n shyt that you could imagine. Black people who want the expensive services who want to be uppity but really cant afford it, black people who prefer dealing w the light skinnned chick(over dark ones) tho shes the dumbest.... who r so impressed w my military service, like military service does anything for our community....

I been on that back to Africa shyt since I was 26, but when I hit 29 I realized that this is our tribe here.... we already sucked some intellect and resources out of Africa in the first place by allowing tranaltant slavery to pop off.... so why would we then send our brightest back to Africa , in a postcolonial situation we aren't used to dealing with?

I believe you should start your school .... our community is lost so u have to attach to an organization first.. an org that you don't even agree w ideologically... unless you have a bunch of Money.

And we need more than unity .... we obviously need militancy and exclusion. At this point we r c00ns for support and or not burning down Korean chinese arab Jewish business that service all black customers.....

 

[MeachTheMonster]

He did....in his video

This is why I trust him, he's accomplished and you're some random guy who says contradicting things with no experience in this except your own opinions. You think a guy like him just goes out saying this for fun or something? I think he's smart enough to know what he's saying. I don't even know if you have a fckin job or not so I'll go with him

It's fine to respect his opinion. But that's all it is, an opinion. The correlation you are trying to make using those graphs just doesn't stand up to reality.

 

[Vonte3000]

Well.. im turning 30 this year... plus I was in the military. I have two llcs , both technology consulting... and one cleaning company that I technically own.... but really some chicks run it....from the cleaning company I've seen more c00n shyt that you could imagine. Black people who want the expensive services who want to be uppity but really cant afford it, black people who prefer dealing w the light skinnned chick(over dark ones) tho shes the dumbest.... who r so impressed w my military service, like military service does anything for our community....

I been on that back to Africa shyt since I was 26, but when I hit 29 I realized that this is our tribe here.... we already sucked some intellect and resources out of Africa in the first place by allowing tranaltant slavery to pop off.... so why would we then send our brightest back to Africa , in a postcolonial situation we aren't used to dealing with?

I believe you should start your school .... our community is lost so u have to attach to an organization first.. an org that you don't even agree w ideologically... unless you have a bunch of Money.

And we need more than unity .... we obviously need militancy and exclusion. At this point we r c00ns for support and or not burning down Korean chinese arab Jewish business that service all black customers.....

Exclusion is a little far

 

[Kritic]

The next business I plan to start is a school, which could have already been reality, if the black people who were in position to do so would, but I just seen too much c00n shyt in recent years, it's driven to be the breaking point where I'm just ready to dip

you're not supposed to give up on the people. go broke and waste time helping black people.
and as you're trying to help poor people they will steal from you and even attempt to take your own life for their own survival...

it's a jungle out there.


but the best (and worst) support you will get will be from the black community. to be a leader you have to have thick skin. after several attempts on my life i got the message.

 

[Vonte3000]

It's fine to respect his opinion. But that's all it is, an opinion. The correlation you are trying to make using those graphs just doesn't stand up to reality.

You can call it an opinion if it makes you feel better you're diluting yourself though, since you have not posted one thing of evidence for your own claim it's just an opinion you have which I know is wrong. Like I said unless you read the entire OP you're wasting time I don't even know why you bothered responding if oyu didn't read it, same for half of these people. Some idiot thought I was talking about segregation and not money it was so obvious he didn't read it. Read the Op or just bounce man that simple, I'll never take your word over his or the data I've seen or articles I've found. You're some random and I actually researched this shyt my self so I know I'm right and people agree with me, everyone else gets it, seems just a few are fighting it and those were the ones who didn't even read it. so again, just leave or read the post man

 

[Blackking]

You can't post two articles and a 46-minute video and expect people to spend an hour preparing before they post. The video alone would have been a good start. Claude Anderson has been saying the same thing for 20 years if not longer. Most of us didn't need to watch it.

Dr. Anderson's mistake is that he only talks to educated middle-class people who have good jobs with benefits. They have too much to lose if they give up their jobs and the business fails. He needs to talk to ex-cons and the unemployed and give them ideas to get a business started for $500 or less (mowing lawns, hauling trash, cleaning houses). As I said before Dr. Anderson's thinking is outdated.

Also, he needs to stop telling blacks to start a business then immediately tell them that we don't spend money at black businesses.

Its like 4 posters going hard at claud anderson...


I don't get why.. his shyt is sorta outdated, but its not like the typical civil rights era people.

At a basic level hes correct.... we need to circle our money...


And HES ONLY WRONG because he doesn't realize how bytchmade, soft, and blatantly enslaved our middle class brain is. All this bullshyt they talk online and in real life is an excuse. They are scared...... scared of going from house slave to field slave. The middle classs should be creating jobs.... the criminal class should be burning businesses that exploit our people and performing justice on those against us instead of each other (imo).

Whether you're black or a devil... if ur poor your likely to stay poor... How is it not the middle classes job to realize when community is more important than a "good job".... so many of us have had goood jobs yet our communities are steadily dying.