Inflation Reduction Act: 8/12/22 - $740B Bill PASSES, Biden signs it into law!

WILL AN ACTUAL BILL BE PASSED BY THE DEMS???


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Where the clowns who said Joe Manchin wasn’t the problem? Where are the clowns who said after Congress passed the infrastructure bill that Biden gave the progressives “assurances?” You lot were wrong again as usual. Now they want to try pass a voting rights bill without reconciliation. We need voting rights reform but Manchin isn’t gonna let it pass. This is an epic failure for the Biden administration. He agenda got sabotaged by two blue dog Democrats. Dems are fukked next year.

Just keep beating this fact into the ground and repeat it constantly because we know there's a subset of Dem supporters that are waiting to spin this against progressives any chance they get (Nap's the obvious example, this is somehow Bernie's fault to him I'm sure :mjlol:).
 

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I’m trying understand this a$$hole Manchin. Why is he a Democrat in the 1st place? He’s a Red State Senator in fukkin West Virginia who’s a Democrat who voted for all the conservative judges that were nominated under Trump.

This dude is trying kill a President from his own fukkin Party.

I don’t understand this at all why is he a Democrat?
 
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I’m trying understand this a$$hole Manchin. Why is he a Democrat in the 1st place? He’s a Red State Senator in fukkin West Virginia who’s a Democrat who voted for all the conservative judges that were nominated under Trump.

This dude is trying kill a President from his own fukkin Party.

I don’t understand this at all why is he a Democrat?

He has more power than if he was a Republican. That's about it.
 

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a lot of you didn't want this to pass so I guess take your victory lap with Manchin

:manny:
Everyone wanted it to pass.
I’m trying understand this a$$hole Manchin. Why is he a Democrat in the 1st place? He’s a Red State Senator in fukkin West Virginia who’s a Democrat who voted for all the conservative judges that were nominated under Trump.

This dude is trying kill a President from his own fukkin Party.

I don’t understand this at all why is he a Democrat?
Because it was easier than running as a Republican. There’s less competition on that side. And he has more power as a swing Democratic vote. That’s about it. As Republican he’s just another guy.
 

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Where the clowns who said Joe Manchin wasn’t the problem? Where are the clowns who said after Congress passed the infrastructure bill that Biden gave the progressives “assurances?” You lot were wrong again as usual. Now they want to try pass a voting rights bill without reconciliation. We need voting rights reform but Manchin isn’t gonna let it pass. This is an epic failure for the Biden administration. He agenda got sabotaged by two blue dog Democrats. Dems are fukked next year.
Probably the same place as the people who said dems should be focusing on voting rights first last week now clutching their pearls.

Y'all overreact over everything.

The threshold y'all have set is, if Biden doesn't implement his entire agenda in the first year he's a failure.

:mjlol:
 

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a lot of you didn't want this to pass so I guess take your victory lap with Manchin

:manny:
Brehs spent the last 5 months saying the bill is trash and progressives should tank it.

Now they're mad because they feel like someone is tanking the diluted bill. :mjlol:
 

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Probably the same place as the people who said dems should be focusing on voting rights first last week now clutching their pearls.

Y'all overreact over everything.

The threshold y'all have set is, if Biden doesn't implement his entire agenda in the first year he's a failure.

:mjlol:
It’s important for a president to get their agenda passed the first year. Because when the second year rolls around it’s midterm season and folks in Congress are more focused on maintaining their seats. So they are risk adverse. Dems are gonna lose the House so this means the rest of his first term is a lame duck one. So the best thing is to pass your agenda as quickly as possible. Hence the first 100 days. Now it’s not all of his fault because I place more blame on Manchin and Sinema for sabotaging his agenda. He wanted these things to pass but he couldn’t convince both of them to pass the BBB. In my opinion he should have called them out and dared them to vote down the bills and put the political heat on them.
 

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Probably the same place as the people who said dems should be focusing on voting rights first last week now clutching their pearls.

Y'all overreact over everything.

The threshold y'all have set is, if Biden doesn't implement his entire agenda in the first year he's a failure.

:mjlol:

We learned from the Obama administration that Biden needed to capitalize in the first two years because interim elections could completely ice the agenda by putting the opposition party in place to block everything (at least barring a willpower to use executive privilege that Biden simply hasn't shown so far). I feel like this concept even existed prior to that though, maybe I'm old fashioned but I remember media making a big deal out of the first hundred days and everyone always harking back to FDR's success as the example. But either way, we literally saw this last time Dems had the numbers to pass ish. They didn't act with urgency, lost a massive amount of down-ballot races in the interim, and then lost the next presidential election.
 

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It’s important for a president to get their agenda passed the first year. Because when the second year rolls around it’s midterm season and folks in Congress are more focused on maintaining their seats. So they are risk adverse. Dems are gonna lose the House so this means the rest of his first term is a lame duck one. So the best thing is to pass your agenda as quickly as possible. Hence the first 100 days. Now it’s not all of his fault because I place more blame on Manchin and Sinema for sabotaging his agenda. He wanted these things to pass but he couldn’t convince both of them to pass the BBB. In my opinion he should have called them out and dared them to vote down the bills and put the political heat on them.
Point to the last president who accomplished their agenda in the first year?

We learned from the Obama administration that Biden needed to capitalize in the first two years because interim elections could completely ice the agenda by putting the opposition party in place to block everything (at least barring a willpower to use executive privilege that Biden simply hasn't shown so far). I feel like this concept even existed prior to that though, maybe I'm old fashioned but I remember media making a big deal out of the first hundred days and everyone always harking back to FDR's success as the example. But either way, we literally saw this last time Dems had the numbers to pass ish. They didn't act with urgency, lost a massive amount of down-ballot races in the interim, and then lost the next presidential election.
It doesn't matter. Trump was extremely popular within his constituency and still lost the house and senate.

American Federal politics isn't designed for swift change or sustained movements

But yes, you must be very old fashioned, because what you're saying hasn't been the case in my child or adult life going back to Bush 1.

At this point in the previous administration he'd only accomplished tax cuts. :hubie:

Obamacare didn't pass until 2010:hubie:

Atthis point Biden has passed Covid relief and the infrastructure deal. :hubie:

He has another year and a month before he'd lose control of the house or senate. :hubie:


I'm a staunch believer that if the bills are beneficial and long term it won't matter if they get done.
 
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