Inflation Reduction Act: 8/12/22 - $740B Bill PASSES, Biden signs it into law!

[intra vires]

They're literally just tanking the party's agenda at this point. Intentionally. For their own benefit. Not only for this term, but for decades to come due to refusing to pass voting reform.


Any Ls the Dems take next year will be in large part be a result of the above.


Dems would probably be better off without them they're literally dragging the party down

Yes and this post properly expressed the nature of your grievances. I take no issue with what you're saying here, I fully agree with much of it. However that isn't what you said in your initial post. Your initial post makes it seem like you don't know how many Republicans voted for the American Rescue Plan? Or how many judges and other federal appointments have been made since Biden's been in office?

The party of POTUS almost always loses seats in the midterms. So, republican control just means Biden accomplishes less, they wouldn't have to own anything.

You're too smart to make a post as ridiculous as the initial one.

 

[No1]

Yes and this post properly expressed the nature of your grievances. I take no issue with what you're saying here, I fully agree with much of it. However that isn't what you said in your initial post. Your initial post makes it seem like you don't know how many Republicans voted for the American Rescue Plan? Or how many judges and other federal appointments have been made since Biden's been in office?

The party of POTUS almost always loses seats in the midterms. So, republican control just means Biden accomplishes less, they wouldn't have to own anything.

You're too smart to make a post as ridiculous as the initial one.

So you’re saying that Republicans getting wiped out in 2006 wasn’t a precursor to 2008? That Dems getting wiped out in 2010 wasn’t a precursor to Trump 2016? Obama was just generational. Republicans losing in 2018 wasn’t a precursor to Biden 2020? Midterms are always a warning side. Losing seats is one thing - a wave is a much more dangerous sign. Of course Democrats will have to own what is happening, look at their approval numbers and brand. As a matter of policy it is better to have those two as Democrats. But for a nationwide brand? It’s detrimental and will kill the spirit of their own voters like it’s doing right now.

 

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[mson]

Is it possible BBB could pass after this tornado tragedy?

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Is it possible BBB could pass after this tornado tragedy?

But you would think that the Dems being the PR savvy politicians that they are, would use this to press for BBB and show Rand Paul's hypocrisy.

 

[Hood Critic]

Is it possible BBB could pass after this tornado tragedy?

Too risky. Would have to be handled carefully and there would really need to be some specific tie ins back to disaster relief and/or disaster detection and warning systems in the BBB. Otherwise they'll look like they're capitalizing off the deaths of Americans for political gain. Only republicans can get away with that because its expected of them to have no limits in order to seize and maintain power, while Dems on the other hand would turn sections of their own party against them.

Too much can go wrong if they fck it up and it still doesn't solve the real issue with the BBB from the voter perspective - no one really knows whats in the bill.

I'd honestly rather them frame the relief they will ultimately provide as socialist-like and why its important, so it could kill that ridiculous talking point for republicans going forward.

 

[wire28]

Too risky. Would have to be handled carefully and there would really need to be some specific tie ins back to disaster relief and/or disaster detection and warning systems in the BBB. Otherwise they'll look like they're capitalizing off the deaths of Americans for political gain. Only republicans can get away with that because its expected of them to have no limits in order to seize and maintain power, while Dems on the other hand would turn sections of their own party against them.

Too much can go wrong if they fck it up and it still doesn't solve the real issue with the BBB from the voter perspective - no one really knows whats in the bill.

I'd honestly rather them frame the relief they will ultimately provide as socialist-like and why its important, so it could kill that ridiculous talking point for republicans going forward.

good thing thats where the GQP draws the line

 

[OfTheCross]

The Senate’s Initial Build Back Better Tax Plan

The Senate’s Initial Build Back Better Tax Plan

Wyden releases a first draft of the Senate’s BBB tax provisions. It won’t be the last word, but Senate Finance Committee Chair Ron Wyden released an 1180-page legislative text of the tax provisions of Build Back Better (BBB). The bill closely tracks the House bill. But it excludes any state and local tax (SALT) deduction cap relief, exempts pension income from the House’s proposed “book” minimum tax, eases limits on corporate interest deductions, and drops a tax on vaping. At the same time, the measure toughens “anti-inversion” tax penalties on firms that are acquired by foreign businesses to reduce US tax liability. The Senate parliamentarian now will scrub the tax provisions bill to be sure they satisfy Senate budget reconciliation rules.

What would happen to the deficit if key provisions of Build Back Better were permanent? At the request of congressional Republicans, the Congressional Budget Office calculated the House version of BBB would add about $3 trillion to the deficit over 10 years if key provisions of the bill were made permanent, rather than phased-out. Extending the expanded Child Tax Credit would account for more than half the amount—about $1.6 trillion. The CBO estimate assumes Congress would not pay for any of the extensions once the House provisions expire.

CTC expansion, family leave… What’s a lawmaker to do? Without congressional action by Dec. 28, families will not receive monthly child tax credit payments in January. But Sen. Joe Manchin continues to urge Congress to delay action on BBB. Fellow Democrats also are pressuring Manchin to drop his opposition to paid four weeks of family and medical leave included in the House bill. Manchin says he wants that issue addressed in a separate bipartisan bill even though Republicans have shown no interest in supporting such a measure.

 

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So you’re saying that Republicans getting wiped out in 2006 wasn’t a precursor to 2008? That Dems getting wiped out in 2010 wasn’t a precursor to Trump 2016? Obama was just generational. Republicans losing in 2018 wasn’t a precursor to Biden 2020? Midterms are always a warning side. Losing seats is one thing - a wave is a much more dangerous sign. Of course Democrats will have to own what is happening, look at their approval numbers and brand. As a matter of policy it is better to have those two as Democrats. But for a nationwide brand? It’s detrimental and will kill the spirit of their own voters like it’s doing right now.

Did you actually read our exchange? Or is there something else going and you felt the need to respond with a non-sequitur?

I suppose it could be a mischaracterization, but I don't actually think you read it.

 

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[Spiritual Stratocaster]

I noticed the news is talm bout everything but this bill..

Was it passed?

 

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[The_Unchosen_One]

Someone go sink this motherfukker's boat already

 

[ineedsleep212]

Pathetic ass party lolol. It's gonna get ugly next year.