In your heart, in your SOUL, you know it should be Lesnar vs Bryan WM 31

[Tha_Mac]

I don't like this logic.

If people assume Brock can't be realistically beat by anyone after what happened at Summerslam. They are assuming that every wrestlers that faces Brock will have the same "gameplan" as Cena (go straight ahead against the Beast).

Wrestling is way more complex than "Wrestler A destroyed Wrestler B (the biggest in the company) therefore no one will buy anyone else beating Wrestler A". Nah man, there's tons of ways of working around that.

You can sell the idea of Bryan (or whoever ends up beating Brock) having a strategy Lesnar, because he's a cocky motherfukker, didn't see coming and didn't prepare for. Then you have the beast playing catch up.

You can have Brock land awkwardly on his leg and his opponent taking advantage of it.

You can have a hardcore match were weapons even the playing field.

Brock is a beast, he is not god. You can book and make any wood wrestler work around a beast, doesn't matter how dominant that monster is.

I feel you but Daniel Bryan is not that guy. Neither is Roman Reigns. The reason WWE is in a corner is because I don't care what you say no has been booked to be better than John Cena. Yes Punk beat him somewhat cleanly, yes Bryan beat him cleanly but Cena is without a doubt best WWE has to offer. So to think that anyone on the present roster is capable of defeating Lesnar other than Cena at this point is not something I can get behind.

From what WWE showed at SS Brock is impervious to pain. So your telling me that Daniel Bryan can muster up enough offense to make Brock feel pain? Then take the beating Brock is gonna dish out? That's why I say WWE went overboard with his dominating victory.

 

[Jmare007]

I feel you but Daniel Bryan is not that guy. Neither is Roman Reigns. The reason WWE is in a corner is because I don't care what you say no has been booked to be better than John Cena. Yes Punk beat him somewhat cleanly, yes Bryan beat him cleanly but Cena is without a doubt best WWE has to offer. So to think that anyone on the present roster is capable of defeating Lesnar other than Cena at this point is not something I can get behind.

From what WWE showed at SS Brock is impervious to pain. So your telling me that Daniel Bryan can muster up enough offense to make Brock feel pain? Then take the beating Brock is gonna dish out? That's why I say WWE went overboard with his dominating victory.

The issue I have with your logic is that you are assuming that every match Brock has from now on has to be worked like the match he just had with Cena, and that's just not the case.

What happens if Brock's opponent, instead of going straight through him like Cena plays a in-and-out game?. How about using speed so Brock can't catch him? How about booking a spot were Brock lands badly on his leg? How about using weapons before the bell rings, like what Lesnar did to Big Show?

Bryan can muster enough offense to make Brock feel pain if you book a match were he has a strategy that focuses on a body part and on using his speed to avoid Brock (see the Morishima match at Manhattan Mayhem). You don't have to book Bryan taking the same beating Cena took, you have to book around Lesnar's dominance and find a way to make Lesnar have a weak spot (fukk, have Cesaro work the mid section and use diverticulitis as Lesnar's krypronite). That doesn't mean Brock can't still look like a beast, you book spots were he is pissed and overcomes pains and still mauls his opponent, but giving the fact that he couldn't dominate early like at Summerslam, Brock can't dish out a whooping like that night. Is that simple.

And it doesn't HAVE to be Bryan. I can see dudes like Cesaro, Rollins, Ambrose and even Reigns (if a miracle happens with his skills and character) being able to believable beat Brock. D-Bry is right now the best option because he's the most over guy and therefore is easier to book around Lesnar's dominance when you have a guy that is amazing in the ring and is over as fukk.

 

[Tha_Mac]

The issue I have with your logic is that you are assuming that every match Brock has from now on has to be worked like the match he just had with Cena, and that's just not the case.

What happens if Brock's opponent, instead of going straight through him like Cena plays a in-and-out game?. How about using speed so Brock can't catch him? How about booking a spot were Brock lands badly on his leg? How about using weapons before the bell rings, like what Lesnar did to Big Show?

Bryan can muster enough offense to make Brock feel pain if you book a match were he has a strategy that focuses on a body part and on using his speed to avoid Brock (see the Morishima match at Manhattan Mayhem). You don't have to book Bryan taking the same beating Cena took, you have to book around Lesnar's dominance and find a way to make Lesnar have a weak spot (fukk, have Cesaro work the mid section and use diverticulitis as Lesnar's krypronite). That doesn't mean Brock can't still look like a beast, you book spots were he is pissed and overcomes pains and still mauls his opponent, but giving the fact that he couldn't dominate early like at Summerslam, Brock can't dish out a whooping like that night. Is that simple.

And it doesn't HAVE to be Bryan. I can see dudes like Cesaro, Rollins, Ambrose and even Reigns (if a miracle happens with his skills and character) being able to believable beat Brock. D-Bry is right now the best option because he's the most over guy and therefore is easier to book around Lesnar's dominance when you have a guy that is amazing in the ring and is over as fukk.

But why would you wanna make Brock have a weak spot after SS? I know he has to eventually lose to put over somebody but I see it being Cena who is the guy to put the strategy together to take Brock down.

Last night was Brock at 100% no one on the roster can stand up to that is my point. My next point is of course he will lose to someone and I'm just saying that someone is most likely Cena.

 

[Kill Dat Noize]

I love the fact that instead of talkin about booking and shooting and things like that they got us talkin about offense and speed like the shyt were a real match. As if this shyt was plausible.

This is what the wrestling business should have always been. Really haven't felt this way since like the early 90's.

 

[Jmare007]

But why would you wanna make Brock have a weak spot after SS? I know he has to eventually lose to put over somebody but I see it being Cena who is the guy to put the strategy together to take Brock down.

Last night was Brock at 100% no one on the roster can stand up to that is my point. My next point is of course he will lose to someone and I'm just saying that someone is most likely Cena.

You answered the first question, you wanna make Brock have a weak spot because he has to lose at some point. And you can reveal that weak point as matches goes by and people start finding weak holes in Lesnar's game before he ends up destroying them.

Last night we saw Brock at 100% being unbeatable but who's to say he's gonna be like that against people who don't "fight" like Cena? That's the beauty of wrestling and sports imo.

And you are right, Cena may be the most logical choice to end up beating Brock. BUT nobody wants to see that, and it's not like you can't make other people beat Brock and look believable. Wrestling gives you the tools to work around a match like last night, I don't see how that's hard to buy but we'll have to agree to disagree I guess.

I love the fact that instead of talkin about booking and shooting and things like that they got us talkin about offense and speed like the shyt were a real match. As if this shyt was plausible.

This is what the wrestling business should have always been. Really haven't felt this way since like the early 90's.

I know breh

This why we need Jim Ross back, dude would be talking about Brock matches with Xs and Os

 

[ECA]

Cena beat Brock by the skin of his teeth, but D-Bry OWNS Cena in kayfabe.

You mean to tell me you clowns have a hard time believing D-Bry couldn't beat Brock using the same tactics that Cena did ?

It only takes one misstep for somebody to capitalize in a fight, especially a worked one.

 

[StatUS]

Cena beat Brock by the skin of his teeth, but D-Bry OWNS Cena in kayfabe.

You mean to tell me you clowns have a hard time believing D-Bry couldn't beat Brock using the same tactics that Cena did ?

It only takes one misstep for somebody to capitalize in a fight, especially a worked one.

 

[Shadow]

Of course it should be Bryan vs. Lesnar(with Sable in his corner ).

I don't think Bryan should be taking any of those Lesnar german suplexes when he comes back though they were brutal.

 

[BodeineBrazy]

Breh, sable was involved in all types of lesbian shyt with torrid and was McMahon Thot.

details?

 

[R=G]

I feel you but Daniel Bryan is not that guy. Neither is Roman Reigns. The reason WWE is in a corner is because I don't care what you say no has been booked to be better than John Cena. Yes Punk beat him somewhat cleanly, yes Bryan beat him cleanly but Cena is without a doubt best WWE has to offer. So to think that anyone on the present roster is capable of defeating Lesnar other than Cena at this point is not something I can get behind.

From what WWE showed at SS Brock is impervious to pain. So your telling me that Daniel Bryan can muster up enough offense to make Brock feel pain? Then take the beating Brock is gonna dish out? That's why I say WWE went overboard with his dominating victory.

Fans worldwide don't see Cana as credible as u are. This man gets U can't wrestle chants in 2014. What on earth got u thinking he's more credible than Daniel Bryan, the guy who fans have been treating like the Rock when in 99 who could do no wrong? Back then, they were chanting ROCKY during WCW PPV main events and named their second TV show after him even though he was heel. The Fans Took Over The Royal Rumble for Daniel Bryan...chanted WE WANT DIVAS at Cena that same night and you got the audacity to say this non punching, undisciplined worker is near Bryan's level in credibility? A man worshipped nearly vs a guy booed yearly at the Hall of Fame? You should be smarter than that.

 

[BodeineBrazy]

Fans worldwide don't see Cana as credible as u are. This man gets U can't wrestle chants in 2014. What on earth got u thinking he's more credible than Daniel Bryan, the guy who fans have been treating like the Rock when in 99 who could do no wrong? Back then, they were chanting ROCKY during WCW PPV main events and named their second TV show after him even though he was heel. The Fans Took Over The Royal Rumble for Daniel Bryan...chanted WE WANT DIVAS at Cena that same night and you got the audacity to say this non punching, undisciplined worker is near Bryan's level in credibility? A man worshipped nearly vs a guy booed yearly at the Hall of Fame? You should be smarter than that.

Yo I noticed u always bring up The Rock to make any point. LOL...

 

[R=G]

Yo I noticed u always bring up The Rock to make any point. LOL...

He's the measuring stick in greatness. ..When it comes to pro wrestling, it didn't get any bigger or better than the Rock. Just like with Jordan and Ali.

 

[BodeineBrazy]

He's the measuring stick in greatness. ..When it comes to pro wrestling, it didn't get any bigger or better than the Rock. Just like with Jordan and Ali.

hmmmmm ok i think Austin > The Rock personally. At the most its a tie between him Hogan and Stone Cold. Love all 3 tho.

 

[R=G]

ok i think Austin > The Rock personally. At the most its a tie between him Hogan and Stone Cold. Love all 3 tho.

Just to squash this right now, there are things that happened with Rocky that will never be duplicated or seen again by anyone....put it like this, even when WHAT was at its height, they never tried that shyt when Rock was on the mic.

Above all of that, Cena is not seen as better as Bryan. He's not gonna win any polls against him. Not even in Boston.

 

[ThatKidBlackHippy]

Dude tried to say Bryan was never as over as HBK or Hart when he had fans actively shytting on the ROYAL RUMBLE purely because he wasn't in it. Then had fans hijack main event segments until he was in the ME of Wrestlemania. Hell, Bryan is so over his wife was in the second main event of SUMMERSLAM. Trolls don't even try to hide the fact that they're trolls on this site. Just embarrassing.

@Kill Dat Noize isn't a troll, just an unpopular opinion i guess

bryan vs brock seems to be a no brainer tho ... he doesnt have to win imo but the match would be dope. he is clearly the most over face in the company whether you like it or not, brie is getting pops by association n all

but that begs the question, as many said -- theres only a handful of up and comers that got the juice now, if it isnt bryan ... is it gonna be reigns? cuz giving it to cena, taker or even rock would be kind of a waste imo. i could see punk doing it if he returns but iunno.

ideally, they should rebuild cesaro for this. if they kept his push consistent post mania he'd be PRIMED for that role. he is big, legit strong, can put on a great match in the ring and *looks* like a legit tough guy for those who want to take image into consideration. he should be booked to be some jason statham type of dude, uppercutting dudes viciously and knocking them out to be the foil to lesnar's laungdron/arnold.

but hey what do i know