in light of lance armstrong, do you believe Tiger Woods or Usain Bolt are clean?

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The only elite level athlete that we can be sure is clean is Floyd Mayweather. :win:
 

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To be honest, you're right, I don't know. :ld:

Nothing shocks me when we find out that yet another superstar athlete has been using PEDs. So if it comes out that Tiger, Usain Bolt, Kobe, LBJ, the entire NFL is on some kind of PEDs, I won't be surprised. I just won't be as impressed with what they've done in the sport. And I will definitely think they are somewhat fraudulent. Perhaps a comparison to singing might be illuminating. There are some singers who can flat out sing their asses off. This is all natural ability. Then there are some who need some...help.
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You seem like a Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez-ass nikka. :mjpls: I'm more of an Aretha Franklin, Etta James-type of nikka. :shaq: I respect their natural ability. :obama: You get me? :youngsabo:

You definitely raise some valid points about what is actually natural, though. On that point, I'ma have to punt for another day. Each sport, however, has defined what is illegal. It's not just what each individual thinks is legitimate. The sport has set a standard for ALL of the players to follow. It's apart of their agreement to engage in the sport. So when players take substances that they know are banned by their sport, they are in the wrong.

While PEDs are indeed rampant in probably every sport, that doesn't mean each sport should stop taking measures to regulate their usage. After all, there's still some of us that appreciate..."natural ability." :smugbiden: Assuming I can trust what I'm seeing is indeed "natural." :leostare:

I respect your POV and ur honesty. Just a couple things:

1. To your point about Aretha/Britney...no amount of autotune could ever make Britney sound like the Queen. No matter what PEDs a guy may use they still gotta have the talent and work hard.

2. Many of the most talented artists have turned to drugs to either aid the creative process or to get them through the rigors of the road. Would you have less respect for such an artist?
 

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Some of yall need to hit da gym
Everyone who develops muscles or gains weight is not on steroids
Especially when you consider they are world class athletes working with some of thr best trainers in da world that literally walk them threw everything.
Its very possible for tiger and marquez to get the bodies they had all naturally
Hit da gym for 5 times a week for da next 3 months while taking some protein shakes and see how much your body changes
But i no a lot (not all) of yall are probably fat slobs anyway
 
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