In HS(or even now) did you care about saying the pledge of alligence in the morning?

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lmao, you brainwashed idiot

We are all brainwashed in one way or another from birth. A child is trained to speak, to bathe, to shyt and to pee. This is all at the behest of parents who insert ideas and methods into their children's heads. The country is just another form of parental figure. At the end of the day, the countrymen can be called into the draft and be compelled into protecting the country. That is the reality.
 

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We are all brainwashed in one way or another from birth. A child is trained to speak, to bathe, to shyt and to pee. This is all at the behest of parents who insert ideas and methods into their children's heads. The country is just another form of parent.
Are you retarded? Speaking, shytting, peeing and bathing are natural animal instincts :what:
 

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We are all brainwashed in one way or another from birth. A child is trained to speak, to bathe, to shyt and to pee. This is all at the behest of parents who insert ideas and methods into their children's heads. The country is just another form of parent.
damn, you really are kind of stupid, huh?
communication and pissing and shytting and cleaning yourself are a necessary part of life, not just for humans but for all animals.

you know what isnt nessecary? forcing 5 year olds to pledge allegiance to an inanimate object every morning(even tho they dont even understand what they are doing/saying) like some weird ass cult.
 

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Are you retarded? Speaking, shytting, peeing and bathing are natural animal instincts :what:

People are taught the nuances of language and potty-trained from an early age. But even if we take way these influences, studies show that humans are influenced by early events and figures in life. In essence we are all "brainwashed" by the circumstances which happen around us. We don't control exactly what we become in life; things happen to us and we change.

damn, you really are kind of stupid, huh?
communication and pissing and shytting and cleaning yourself are a necessary part of life, not just for humans but for all animals.

you know what isnt nessecary? forcing 5 year olds to pledge allegiance to an inanimate object every morning(even tho they dont even understand what they are doing/saying) like some weird ass cult.

I disagree.

The children are American and in being born have already been thrust into American pledgedom. Their reciting their vows is a reflection of this fact with the added benefit of encouraging patriotism, which is essential to national cohesiveness.
 

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People are taught the nuances of language and potty-trained from an early age. But even if we take way these influences, studies show that humans are influenced by early events and figures in life. In essence we are all "brainwashed" by the circumstances which happen around us.
this has nothing to do with the topic this thread is about
 

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People are taught the nuances of language and potty-trained from an early age. But even if we take way these influences, studies show that humans are influenced by early events and figures in life. In essence we are all "brainwashed" by the circumstances which happen around us.
Humans are animals. We would shyt and communicate either way.
 

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I was a conscientious objector which pissed my teachers off even more. Then when I explained to other students, they tried to punish me for creating cult following or whatever. I was just voicing my freedom of speech :yeshrug:
 

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this has nothing to do with the topic this thread is about

I was responding to your assertion that the American national allegiance is "brainwashing". It's no more brainwashing that what people grow up with and are influenced by everyday of their impressionable. Moreover, like encouraging children to be kind and generous, there is a positive aspect to encouraging them to be patriotic.
 

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I was responding to your assertion that the American national allegiance is "brainwashing". It's no more brainwashing that what people grow up with and are influenced by everyday of their impressionable. Moreover, like encouraging children to be kind and generous, there is a positive aspect to encouraging them to be patriotic.
give some examples, i'd argue that being blindly patriotic at a young age is not a good thing, if anything it seems like it would make that person more likely to be xenophobic
 

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I was responding to your assertion that the American national allegiance is "brainwashing". It's no more brainwashing that what people grow up with and are influenced by everyday of their impressionable. Moreover, like encouraging children to be kind and generous, there is a positive aspect to encouraging them to be patriotic.
You used terrible examples tho. If you really think people have to be trained to talk, shyt and piss idk what to tell you :heh:
 

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Humans are animals. We would shyt and communicate either way.

But we wouldn't have the same mannerisms in shytting or speaking. We might shyt outside with no fidelity to manner or speak with no attention to syntax. These are nuances.

Anyway, you'll also notice that I said "taking AWAY these influences", we are still influenced by our surroundings. I'm talking about environment and behavior in general. So even if you don't talk about speaking or shytting because of their complexity, what I said about us being brainwashed by the environment is still correct.
 
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