Ime Udoka Ain't Walking Through That Door - 2022-23 Boston Celtics season thread

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There’s no such thing as “clutch” when you play for a lottery team. They aren’t expected to win and nobody cares about what Bradley Beal did on a game the other team load managed and sat all their stars because they were playing the Wizards. Last player I wanna trade for is Bradley Beal entering his 30s. I roll the dice with JB🤷🏽‍♂️


Ironically enough a perfect player for this Celtics squad would be Kyrie Irving, playmaker that can score consistently and set up Brown and Tatum, it’ll never happen but that’s the perfect piece.
 
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I want Tyrese Haliburton on this team
6'5" PG
  • 94 touches per game for 7.5 minutes of possession time
  • Only 2.5 turnovers per game
Had 412 FGM + 585 AST + 157 Fouls Drawn / 141 turnovers = 8.18 ratio up from last year's 6.1. His 8.18 ratio is better than Brown's 6.0 and Tatum's 6.9 this year. (I don't value AST:TOV ratio. It's too limited and you don't only get turnovers when trying to pass the ball)

Look at his point creation to turnover ratio. He scored 1160 pts + 723 AST pts created / 141 tov = 19.13 ratio. That blows away Brown's 12.23 and Tatum's 14.69 this year.

This is THE guy to get. But Indy wouldn't trade him for Brown. I wouldn't if I was them. Haliburton is younger, better shooter and a better decision maker.

They would trade him for Tatum, despite Tatum being a worse decision maker and less efficient scorer. He'd be a perfect fit with Brown. He could handle the ball even better than Tatum does, make way better decisions and Brown could play off of him, get the ball in better positions to attack and kill defenses. It's a much better fit than Tatum and Brown and Indy would do it because they would be getting the better player.

This guy would be a perfect fit for the C's as a 40.8% career 3 point shooter. And he's an ideal fit with Jaylen. I think this would make the C's a better team even with losing Tatum's talent. Sometimes you gotta lose the battle to win the war.
 

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I want Tyrese Haliburton on this team
6'5" PG
  • 94 touches per game for 7.5 minutes of possession time
  • Only 2.5 turnovers per game
Had 412 FGM + 585 AST + 157 Fouls Drawn / 141 turnovers = 8.18 ratio up from last year's 6.1. His 8.18 ratio is better than Brown's 6.0 and Tatum's 6.9 this year. (I don't value AST:TOV ratio. It's too limited and you don't only get turnovers when trying to pass the ball)

Look at his point creation to turnover ratio. He scored 1160 pts + 723 AST pts created / 141 tov = 19.13 ratio. That blows away Brown's 12.23 and Tatum's 14.69 this year.

This is THE guy to get. But Indy wouldn't trade him for Brown. I wouldn't if I was them. Haliburton is younger, better shooter and a better decision maker.

They would trade him for Tatum, despite Tatum being a worse decision maker and less efficient scorer. He'd be a perfect fit with Brown. He could handle the ball even better than Tatum does, make way better decisions and Brown could play off of him, get the ball in better positions to attack and kill defenses. It's a much better fit than Tatum and Brown and Indy would do it because they would be getting the better player.

This guy would be a perfect fit for the C's as a 40.8% career 3 point shooter. And he's an ideal fit with Jaylen. I think this would make the C's a better team even with losing Tatum's talent. Sometimes you gotta lose the battle to win the war.
He a 6’5 rondo
 

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What does "blow it up" mean. You can complain about the outcome after an Eastern Conference Finals loss but teams are rarely going to completely blow up a team that gets to the ECF/Finals every year. They'd still be a top 1-2 favorite in the East headed into next year.

I agree that some changes probably should be made but what? What is going to get the team over the hump.

To me? Trading 1 or more core players and shuffling some other cards. Not necessarily trading everybody. But teams should know we are open for business.

Keep them both, eventually they’ll get it, You want to trade them both. Go ahead be the Gm and bring us some players. Who are you trading them for?

I wanna see what your Celtics lineup looks like next year.

"Eventually theyll get it" is not really all that inspiring.

No one should be off limits. Explore how we can improve the roster. I'm not suggesting trading Tatum for picks and expirings.

I am suggesting moving Smart, Brown or both. Brown may dart in free agency and giving him a supermax may not be the best idea. Smart is a defensive player of the year that cant stop undrafted players. Hes a point guard that struggles to make a bounce pass or post entry pass. Hes a defense first player who also guns. Hes a leader of a team that crumbles under expectations.

Both players have value. Make Tatum happy and get Beal. Call up Portland. See what's out there. Even if the team has less talent next year, the dynamics may yield better results. Stop being scared and make some moves. Eventually they will figure it out and all of a sudden its 2030, the core is washed and the team is the Buffalo Bills of the NBA with a bunch of "success" and no rings
 

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They need an actual point guard
What is Brogdon when he’s healthy? Besides Brad’s Princeton offense they’re running doesn’t really require a true pg. Celtics haven’t had a true pg since Rondo.


Question is do y’all want another star in return for Brown or a package with picks.

I saw a trade on the internet like
Laker:
kyrie

Mavs:
Brown

Celtics:
Rui
number 10 pick
Number 17 pick
Mavs 2027 FRP
Lakers 2029 FRP
THJ
Jaden Hardy


You can basically trade that package for another proven piece to build around Tatum
 

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What is Brogdon when he’s healthy? Besides Brad’s Princeton offense they’re running doesn’t really require a true pg. Celtics haven’t had a true pg since Rondo.


Question is do y’all want another star in return for Brown or a package with picks.

I saw a trade on the internet like
Laker:
kyrie

Mavs:
Brown

Celtics:
Rui
number 10 pick
Number 17 pick
Mavs 2027 FRP
Lakers 2029 FRP
THJ
Jaden Hardy


You can basically trade that package for another proven piece to build around Tatum

If you trade Jaylen you should be getting another all star who you may think is a better fit, not some picks and role players.

JB had a bad game but I don't think the Cs are gonna be reactionary.

Miami is always a bad matchup cause Spo is gonna throw that zone at them and they don't have anyone who can collapse the zone.

Tatum needs to develop a post game.
 

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If you trade Jaylen you should be getting another all star who you may think is a better fit, not some picks and role players.

JB had a bad game but I don't think the Cs are gonna be reactionary.

Miami is always a bad matchup cause Spo is gonna throw that zone at them and they don't have anyone who can collapse the zone.

Tatum needs to develop a post game.


If Brad is looking to trade Jaylen Brown he should only settle for a player of JB Caliber, I know Ja will miss half the season Next year and he needs a fresh start away from Memphis.


 

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If Brad is looking to trade Jaylen Brown he should only settle for a player of JB Caliber, I know Ja will miss half the season Next year and he needs a fresh start away from Memphis.




That would be robbery for the Cs :russ:

Why would the Grizz do that:skip:
 

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If you trade Jaylen you should be getting another all star who you may think is a better fit, not some picks and role players.

JB had a bad game but I don't think the Cs are gonna be reactionary.

Miami is always a bad matchup cause Spo is gonna throw that zone at them and they don't have anyone who can collapse the zone.

Tatum needs to develop a post game.
Trey Young is more impactful star player and most Celtics fan scuffed at the idea of trading brown for him.

When you trade away your better players it rare you get a better player in return. Trae for Brown would probably be the best return.
 
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