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Gabriel Prosser
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Nat Turner
William Parker
Toussaint L' Overture
Jean Jacque Dessalines

....none of them were Muslim. Stop lying.
And any other slave rebellions any place else, how is that relevant to us, here in the states?

Why are both you and the OP trying to downplay the Arab element in Islam?

When fundamental elements of Islam require you to speak in the Arab language and, in 2020s America, requires you to dress like someone who lived on the Arabian peninsula circa 900ad. You're required to do a Hajj pilgrimage to the Saudi Arabian Peninsula for a god that is supposedly everywhere. You have to direct your prayers to the east, again towards Saudi Arabia, or else your prayers may not be heard.

Islam centers Arabs and the Arabian Peninsula when they are not even a footnote in Judaism and Christianity.

If a black american is to leave their "cac religion", it shouldn't be for a religion whose nucleus is centered around Arab identity because let's be clear, Arabs ain't have a collective identity prior to Islam.

If we gonna leave behind our cac religions it should be for one that places it's importance in West Africa. FOH with everything else.
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Every time there's a thread on religion, it never fails to attract the clowns that likes to come in it to spew their atheism to others.

Y'all real fukking pathetic :scust:
If you are agnostic or atheist and someone says hey I know the solution for this I want to force even more religion on you :russ:. How could you expect no response from that individual?
 

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nikka THERES LITERALLY MUSLIM COUNTRIES HOLDING ENSLAVED AFRICANS RIGHT NOW.
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It's human trafficking where the family of the captured have to pay a ransom to have them released. None of those people were taken from their lands. They were trying to get to Europe and often times it's other black people that are doing the capturing. And it's not just happening to black people. There's also been Morrocans, Egyptians and even other Libyans that have been captured.
 

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why not just practice and believe in justice
I love Fuller to death,, but you cant visualize justice. You gotta cloak it around mythology to pass it on to the next generation.


It also helps with chanelling an idea. On some level, religion is a mnuemonic device. If I told you you to to visualize electrons bumping into each other in the sky or to channel the adrenaline in your body, you wouldn't know where to start.:yeshrug:


But if I told you to picture someone like Thor weilding a magic hammer it would be easier. Similarly, if i told you to picture Ogun(west African War God) it makes it easier to chanel that adrenaline


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Ogun for reference.

Forget adrenaline. Doesnt his image just make you want to go to war for your people?


It's human trafficking where the family of the captured have to pay a ransom to have them released. None of those people were taken from their lands. They were trying to get to Europe and often times it's other black people that are doing the capturing. And it's not just happening to black people. There's also been Morrocans, Egyptians and even other Libyans that have been captured.
Breh, are you serious?:usure: You legit made an "All Lives Matter" arguement to a website devoted to black people, in a thread addressed at black people.:unimpressed:



You also preceded that point with an arguement blaming black people for the misery imposed on them by others.:mjtf:
(You seem to be implying that slavery is OK under some conditions, can you clarify your point?)






Also, the (modern) arab slave trade has been going on since the 80s breh, long before the migrant crisis.:patrice:
 
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May Allah guide the brothers back to their original religion before slavery Jim Crow and modern indoctrination....Islam
 

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Oppressive religions that chain ones mental development to insane ramblings of some dude that got real high 400 years ago and said he spoke to "god" ain't freedom chief...

The reality of ALL organized religions is, their foundation is built on controlling the masses as an opiate for the lower class, poor and the hopeless...

In these countries you are required to live your life on the bare minimum to not piss off the angry invisible "god" in the sky you will only meet when you cease to exist while sheikh has 12 wives, 10 homes and a super yacht...:stopitslime:

Rather deal with capitalist oppression, at least I know that's not based on some dude getting high and imaginary shyt...
 

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an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab

Is this scripture? This sentence presupposes an existent attitude of Arab superiority or Arab centrality. Why would it presuppose this? Is it because Arab identity and culture is intertwined in the very heart of Islam?

also a white has no superiority over a black, nor a black has any superiority over a white

Is this also scripture? There were no concepts of race at the time so how is this passage describing things in a black/white racial dichotomy?

Learn that every Muslim is a brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one brotherhood.

If you are a black Christian in Nigeria, are you still considered a brother?

you speak English and wear suits that were created by wealthy English men hundreds of years ago. Do you consider yourself an English men? Arabic was the language the Qu'ran was brought forth with and the Arabs were the people Muhammad was first sent to with a universal message. Being Muslim doesn't make someone become an Arab.

Comparing our second generation English society to a religion formed in the desert thousands of years ago isn't the same thing. Unless Islam isn't a religion but a political system? Which would then mean it's an arab political system. No other religion, at it's most fundamental, requires you to mimic the society from whence it was brought forth. You got people in Nordic climates dressing like bedouins that roamed the desert thousands of years ago. That seems to me that Islam is more than a religious ideology.

Also some of the greatest empires to exist on the African continent were muslim and there is still a rich culture of Islam in Africa.

Does Islam teach that Adam and Eve were formed in the area of the Songhay? Or that Abraham was from Mali?

There is nothing culturally African about Islam.

And you have to wonder why seeing that science points to Africa as being the birthplace of humanity. Which means Adam and Eve were black. And Abraham was black.

We need a religion that centers Africa, the actual birthplace of humanity. Where God and man first walked together.

Arabs have no importance in traditional Judaism and Christianity. So Islam became a clout chasing project to place importance around them and their culture.
 

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May Allah guide the brothers back to their original religion before slavery Jim Crow and modern indoctrination....Islam

The first Africans to set foot in Virginia were Christian. They all came from the Kingdom of the Kongo which was a Christian kingdom at the time, before slavery, Jim Crow, or modern indoctrination.
 
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