SMH at some of the earlier posts in here. Making disbelief look real
right now
To those who think ... what they preceive as the "randomness" of Big Bang cosmology, abiogenesis, and evolution leading to today ... somehow strengthens a God hypothesis, consider this:
I've used this example before because... I like to play cards, and I think it does a good job when looking at probabilities. Imagine you've just learned how to play poker, and you sit down to play your first hand. What are the odds that you get dealt Ace, King, Queen, Jack, 10 of the same suit, lets say diamonds? I don't remember the exact amount, but I believe it's something like 1/650,000. That would be crazy right? I mean, obviously the dealer fixed the deck so you would get that particular hand! ...Well, no, not necessarily. Let's say, instead of being dealt the royal flush, you were instead dealt a 2 of clubs, king of hearts, 8 of diamonds ... so on and so on -- just a hand that doesn't really mean much ... a completely random-seeming, but distinct hand. Do you know the probability of being dealt those five particular cards? It's exactly the same. We put value on the face cards, but statistically speaking there is no inherent value in them. For any draw, you are just as likely to be given a 5 as you are an Ace.
This is exactly what I think theists do when they appeal to the statistical improbability of today's universe as some proof of God. They look at the universe and say "a dealer must have fixed the deck", when in fact this outcome could have occurred naturally. I hesitate to use "random" when discussing this topic because
we know that the natural laws are such that a series of events lead to the eventual creation of complex organisms. If there's a god, it's physics, not some conscious, intelligent being that has a plan. It wasn't "random". It's only "random" in the sense that it wasn't guided by a being.
So to @
Van Taak, yes, there is no reason to think a god necessarily had a hand in creating our universe when we know it's completely possible for it to happen naturally, on its own. It doesn't matter how improbable it seems to us, that doesn't make it impossible. It's just as improbable to get a royal flush as it is to get a specific worthless hand. And it's not that the Earth would burn up if it were a bit closer ... there are closer planets after all. WE would be fukked, not the planet. You're looking at it the wrong way. It's not that the Earth is made perfect for us, rather we've learned to adapt to it. That's one of the key things of evolution. Now, with the billions of other stars and planets that surround them, there's probably one that is life-capable that we haven't found, or don't have the technology to find yet ... but let me address your other question also.
The Big Bang doesn't say that something exploded from nothing. You should probably kinda research some of this stuff. It says that the universe as we know it was originally condensed into one singularity ... smaller, or as small as sub-atomic particles. Why or how this explosion occurred I'm not sure whether or not we know. You are certainly free to assume that something supernatural that we know even less about must have caused this event, as most theists do. I, like my comrade Tom, choose to reserve judgement on the question, acknowledging one, science is our most reliable method of discovering truth not faith, and two, the views of the ignorant masses are not always correct. Just because something makes sense or seems more likely doesn't make it so. Take some college level physics/chemistry courses for that.
Welp, I've gone on long enough
Wha? When was this established? I swear, you dumb smart nikkas kill me ... esp. with this look at the trees, look at the sky nonsense.
I don't know but it exactly tells alot of the same things being said about the Neanderthals today.
